Aluminum Classic Valve

[Carnage reigns]

Cap the Classic valve and run an HPR as your foregrip.

I mentioned it a couple of times about getting some classic valves milled, but so far havent found anyone willing to do it. Personally, I just want valve, not the reg made.

I like this idea. Who sells threaded caps?

[Carnage reigns]

Well.... considering AGD is done making parts id say, yes. It is too much to want. Its like the "new gun from AGD" thread. Pipe dreams...

I just think it would cost as much to produce as the x, but still have the same performance of its stainless counterpart. And I wouldn't pay $200+ for a valve that's the same as a $50 one over 5-6-7oz weight savings when you could just shave it out somewhere else.... but that's just me

My thing is will UWL allow it. That's what matters most.

[Carnage reigns]

Here's my thought,

Regular stainless classic valve, ule body w/front chopped, factory rail ule milled by Luke, ule'd frame of choice with a pneu setup. For counter balance to the "crazy heavy" valve run a stainless back barrel... or, on my classic my 14" dye stainless with 68/45 had near perfect balance. It was "heavy" when carrying it to the field in one hand loaded with paint etc... but once you shouldered the marker the balance made it seem weightless.


I don't have ule milling on my classic, but I just suggested it to make up for the full stainless valve... you could also substitute pneu for electro in the frame as well....

If you chop the front that's to get it down to am/mm length correct? That's what I assumed.

[OPBN]

I like this idea. Who sells threaded caps?

I know its AM/MM length, but Luke can mill it from an RTP length rail as well. Weighs in at 2.25lbs without the barrel. It could be lighter if you used CCM fittings, a smaller ASA, CF body mod etc. I could easily see it getting down to 2lbs or under.

Deus Machina on MCB and here I think.. Was the one who made mine. Not 100% sure if he is still doing them or not? Its a pretty easy item to mill, IIRC I had someone else ready to make them, but then he popped back up and had a handful in stock.

[blackdeath1k]

I just think it would cost as much to produce as the x, but still have the same performance of its stainless counterpart. And I wouldn't pay $200+ for a valve that's the same as a $50 one over 5-6-7oz weight savings when you could just shave it out somewhere else.... but that's just me

That is my outlook totally on the classic. Hate to say it. But it is.

I was on the understanding any gun was legal as long as one slow trigger pull = one ball shot. Since this is possible with a ULT. Why would any rt based valve be illegal? Other than the tournament heads not wanting agd in the scene anymore. Heaven forbid an old gun take up marketing space for a brand new electro.

[Xmagterror]

That sounds like a cool project. other have suggested it over the years. i doubt AGD would ever touch this. If i were to take this project on i would just make an aluminum valve housing and have the customer install his own parts from his existing valve. I have the equipment and know how to make these.....the question is will TK let me?

[Cokrkilr]

That is my outlook totally on the classic. Hate to say it. But it is.

I was on the understanding any gun was legal as long as one slow trigger pull = one ball shot. Since this is possible with a ULT. Why would any rt based valve be illegal? Other than the tournament heads not wanting agd in the scene anymore. Heaven forbid an old gun take up marketing space for a brand new electro.

I thought this as well, but hell its been about 10 years since my last tourney... I know rt's were legal back when because one of my friends ran one on our team.

Id rather see the booyah or hyperframe come back in the $150 range than a new valve honestly...

[Carnage reigns]

That is my outlook totally on the classic. Hate to say it. But it is.

I was on the understanding any gun was legal as long as one slow trigger pull = one ball shot. Since this is possible with a ULT. Why would any rt based valve be illegal? Other than the tournament heads not wanting agd in the scene anymore. Heaven forbid an old gun take up marketing space for a brand new electro.

I think it's the possibility that the marker wouldn't be one trigger pull = one ball shot. I wonder if I tourney lock an electric would that be good enough.

[OPBN]

That sounds like a cool project. other have suggested it over the years. i doubt AGD would ever touch this. If i were to take this project on i would just make an aluminum valve housing and have the customer install his own parts from his existing valve. I have the equipment and know how to make these.....the question is will TK let me?

That was my thought. And as mentioned, I only want the valve portion, not the reg. Others may want the reg though. An extra thought would be to mill it so it will accept a ULT. Actually for my use, you don't even need internals excepting the on/off.

[Carnage reigns]

That sounds like a cool project. other have suggested it over the years. i doubt AGD would ever touch this. If i were to take this project on i would just make an aluminum valve housing and have the customer install his own parts from his existing valve. I have the equipment and know how to make these.....the question is will TK let me?

The valve part would be fine. I could use a cp reg with it and I don't have a problem with that. Even better I could find a reg with 45 degree elbow on it (Dye Reg)!!!!!!!

[Xmagterror]

I sent TK an email and he said it would be ok for me to produce up to 50. I would just need to mark them as my own so they are not confused with AGD product. If we were to make just the front half of the valve it would be most cost effective to use the stainless power tube tip from an x valve. making the reg half is probably a waste since several aftermarket companies made them from aluminum and they are cheap.

sounds like a cool project....If enough people are interested i will do a run this year.

[Cokrkilr]

Id buy one of those caps to use on my pistol build, but having to use a hpr as a grip kind of kills that look.

I guess you could use a dual regulated tank... but that would be a little silly just to run one gun

[Cokrkilr]

I sent TK an email and he said it would be ok for me to produce up to 50. I would just need to mark them as my own so they are not confused with AGD product. If we were to make just the front half of the valve it would be most cost effective to use the stainless power tube tip from an x valve. making the reg half is probably a waste since several aftermarket companies made them from aluminum and they are cheap.

sounds like a cool project....If enough people are interested i will do a run this year.

But! Where do all these aluminum regs just pop up at? I've only seen a couple hurricane valves pop up over a few months.

I think it would be dumb to NOT do regs as well, or you've otherwise just built a reverse rtp valve. Using aluminum center and stainless ends. Sounds a little crazy to even waste the time in my personal opinion.

[OPBN]

The valve part would be fine. I could use a cp reg with it and I don't have a problem with that. Even better I could find a reg with 45 degree elbow on it (Dye Reg)!!!!!!!

One thing you hae to watch is to make sure the output on the reg is high enough. You need something where the ouput is at least 6-650psi.

[OPBN]

I sent TK an email and he said it would be ok for me to produce up to 50. I would just need to mark them as my own so they are not confused with AGD product. If we were to make just the front half of the valve it would be most cost effective to use the stainless power tube tip from an x valve. making the reg half is probably a waste since several aftermarket companies made them from aluminum and they are cheap.

sounds like a cool project....If enough people are interested i will do a run this year.

Are the powertubes the same on the Classic? If not, I would say use the Classic powertube vs the X. If we are having to scavenge for powertubes, I would rather scavenge from a $50 Classic than a $200 X or Retro.. Having to use an X powertube would kill it for me unless AGD has spares that they'll sell you.