Aluminum Classic Valve

[harleywrench001]

I sent TK an email and he said it would be ok for me to produce up to 50. I would just need to mark them as my own so they are not confused with AGD product. If we were to make just the front half of the valve it would be most cost effective to use the stainless power tube tip from an x valve. making the reg half is probably a waste since several aftermarket companies made them from aluminum and they are cheap.

sounds like a cool project....If enough people are interested i will do a run this year.

I would take 2 or 3 off your hands depending on price.

[Xmagterror]

Are the powertubes the same on the Classic? If not, I would say use the Classic powertube vs the X. If we are having to scavenge for powertubes, I would rather scavenge from a $50 Classic than a $200 X or Retro.. Having to use an X powertube would kill it for me.

the classic powertube tips are welded on. I sent tuna a PM on the X powertube tips. Might as well use them because they are already made. Sure we could make the regulator ends as well if enough people want them.

for the quantity were talking about these will cost about the same as a new x valve when its all said and done.

[OPBN]

the classic powertube tips are welded on. I sent tuna a PM on the X powertube tips. Might as well use them because they are already made. Sure we could make the regulator ends as well if enough people want them.

for the quantity were talking about these will cost about the same as a new x valve when its all said and done.

I'm out. Deus was offering a cap for XValves at one point Think he made a couple, but not sure how many. I would rather find a cheap used X and cap it before spending $250 on just this. Sorry, I didnt realize it would be that much.

[blackdeath1k]

Haha haha. All the work involved. How would anyone expect this to be under a 200 dollar price tag?

[Cokrkilr]

Like I said earlier in the thread.... id pay $50 for some weight than $200+ on the same classic valve.... you may get 1-2 sold here and there, but your gonna get put 6 feet under with 48 of these in your casket

Pipe dreams.......

[C_losjoker]

The only thing I see with this. Wanting this for competitive play, if you make a classic valve out of aluminum. Everyone is going to have it ano to match, so how are judges/refs going to know its a classic valve not X valve. I am sure some if not.most are not even familiar with a mag so for them to tell the difference by looks is going to be a mess.

[OPBN]

Haha haha. All the work involved. How would anyone expect this to be under a 200 dollar price tag?

I honestly have no idea on machine time.I thought when I had asked for a one off once that someone quoted me around $200. I was figuring with a little quantity, maybe $100. At least we know now.

[blackdeath1k]

Like I said earlier in the thread.... id pay $50 for some weight than $200+ on the same classic valve.... you may get 1-2 sold here and there, but your gonna get put 6 feet under with 48 of these in your casket

Pipe dreams.......

Oh I wasn't directing that really at you. You have been saying a classic valve would cost as much to produce from the beginning. I would love to have my classic valve weigh less also. But not enough to pay much for the same thing I already own. Just lighter.

People in general think stuff can be made and sold for nothing. Then throw a fit when they find out the fabricator wants to make a little profit.

[Cokrkilr]

The only thing I see with this. Wanting this for competitive play, if you make a classic valve out of aluminum. Everyone is going to have it ano to match, so how are judges/refs going to know its a classic valve not X valve. I am sure some if not.most are not even familiar with a mag so for them to tell the difference by looks is going to be a mess.

Yeah I see it like this too, and that's IF it ever caught on (it just died this morning, lol)


Id really rather see the mods that used to make a classic rip, get people excited again... instead of of weight savings make up for it with the fact you can make it rip off 15-18-20 bps... someone needs to bring the electronic frame back, with basic boards available for.decent prices, frames to choose from, I don't see it being a problem bringing one back sub $200.


Not a ten year old one going for $300 on eBay because nobody lets them go... or there aren't many left?

[Cokrkilr]

Oh I wasn't directing that really at you. You have been saying a classic valve would cost as much to produce from the beginning. I would love to have my classic valve weigh less also. But not enough to pay much for the same thing I already own. Just lighter.

People in general think stuff can be made and sold for nothing. Then throw a fit when they find out the fabricator wants to make a little profit.

Yeah for sure, I was writing mine when you posted yours so I didn't even see it its all good

[OPBN]

Not a ten year old one going for $300 on eBay because nobody lets them go... or there aren't many left?

They're on drugs. Hyperframes used to pop up pretty often for under $150. I would wager its the one that someone thinks is a Devilmag frame and is shooting for the moon.

[OPBN]

You have been saying a classic valve would cost as much to produce from the beginning.
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I was saying this as well, but saying a complete classic valve would cost as much to make in aluminum, not just the valve body with no internals, reg, on/off etc.

I'm not complaining, just to be clear, I honestly didn't think just this one peice would be THAT much to produce. Oh well

Thank you XMT for looking into this.

[blackdeath1k]

I was saying this as well, but saying a complete classic valve would cost as much to make in aluminum, not just the valve body with no internals, reg, on/off etc.

I'm not complaining, just to be clear, I honestly didn't think just this one peice would be THAT much to produce. Oh well

Thank you XMT for looking into this.

Well he did just give a rough guess also. Once he looks in to it. No telling what numbers he will come up with as a more firm price range for a full valve or just the front portion.

And as stated before. My comment was directed to no one directly.

[Xmagterror]

I dont have an exact price in my head. i would think the front half of the valve could be made and sold at $100 even if atleast 12 people would take one. TK said i could make up to 50 of them.

Jay

[blackdeath1k]

Well he did just give a rough guess also. Once he looks in to it. No telling what numbers he will come up with as a more firm price range for a full valve or just the front portion.

And as stated before. My comment was directed to no one directly.

Just a guess. But I bet the al to do this in will be 30 bux per small chunk on its own. Specialty al is expensive!.