Salm Speaks Out

[SlartyBartFast]

How to stop cheating >> Video Replay

First I think all teams should sign a form that makes them liable to pay back 10 times the top prise if it is proven they won by cheating.

Secondly to immediately increase the number of refs on the field allow "video replays".

What I mean is this:
Allow any team to lodge a complaint about any game or team with the head judge with video evidence. If found true, the offending team gets a penalty. If found false, complaining team receives the penalty. If not sure, the complaining team receives a minor penalty.

Probably not workable, but it was an idea. The biggest downfall I see is that teams with nothing to lose could swamp the judges with complaints hoping sink another team.

[cphilip]

Originally posted by blnk162


**** you, how dare you bring my parents into this, dont talk **** about anything you dont know homo.

For the rest of you, once again I never said cheating was right, or justitified but there are reasons for it, I cant even argue with any of you because you guys are comparing yourself to pro paintball which is a falacy, it doesnt matter, feel good that you spent so much brain power arguing, when your all pro then see what its like and see if you never cheat.

I warned you yesterday about cursing. Your reaction was way off base and out of line. And in this case you then Flamed him too. FINAL WARNING - cphilip

[blnk162]

Originally posted by cphilip


I warned you yesterday about cursing. Your reaction was way off base and out of line. And in this case you then Flamed him too. FINAL WARNING - cphilip

Wait why cant we swear when there are filters?

Its not kindercare....

[cphilip]

In the rules you agreed to it states you cannot challenge the filter. Main reason is that we can tell what you ment to say and so its still cursing. Its the rule and we all live with it here.

In your case its starting to feel like Kindercare...

[blnk162]

Originally posted by cphilip
In the rules you agreed to it states you cannot challenge the filter. Main reason is that we can tell what you ment to say and so its still cursing. Its the rule and we all live with it here.

In your case its starting to feel like Kindercare...

Thats cool, just I thought you get in trouble for bypassing the filter with alternate spellings and spaces..

Nice shot about the kindercare ill let that one slide.

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

Originally posted by blnk162

Nice shot about the kindercare ill let that one slide.

I'm sure he's so relieved that you're going to let HIM slide.

Originally posted by blnk162

Thats cool, just I thought you get in trouble for bypassing the filter with alternate spellings and spaces..

You can't bypass the CURSE filters but you can curse. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Once there is an unbiased outside ref league/group that can refrain from being influenced by team owners/players, cheating will always be a major aspect of paintball. An unacceptable aspect, but still one nonetheless. There needs to be proffessional refs that get paid to enforce rules. Unfortunately where's the money going to come from that pay these refs?

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

Last Post

This is my last post on this issue unless something extremely motivates me to post another, it has gotten somewhat lame and I think the point most of us have been trying to make has been heard but those who actually understand what we're saying and aren't making weak excuses so I'm just going to conclude what I've been saying:

Blink, no matter what level you play on, experience you have, marker you use, or how much you actually cheat which I'm sure is at least enough to be included in the group of people we're talking about here, you have shown the behavior and attitude that is damaging our game. You may not have done anything as extreme as that scumbag Salm but you have the exact same mindset. Sure, others do it, and my bet is you don't have the maturity to do this, but you ought to think about what you've said and done and try to show more respect towards others and the game. As you act now, I would refuse to play on the same team with you, hands down. The first requisite for anyone on my team is love for the game and respect for it and those others who play it to enjoy it and don't ruin it. I can't do anything about you and probably won't play you anytime since we're in different regions, but unfortunately I know I'll play with and against many people that think as you do around here and that's a shame because it makes the game less fun.

The idea of video cameras is a good one. Alot of things slip by the refs but the ability to review the play and for fines to be handed out post-game if solid evidence can be presented is something that can force these crooked players to start behaving cause even if they win they will be losing alot of money by cheating to do it. It doesn't have to be a complex set of cameras, even handhelds would work. We pay $1500-2000 for pro markers, a $250 handheld Sony is all that's needed to make cheating risky and done less. We'll see.

This game shouldn't need more than three refs, it's the cheating and immature behavior that forces more. Paintchecks for when you're not sure, checking flag hangs, and other basic functions are what the ref should be doing, not getting cussed out or looking for wipers. I think the game could clean up a little soon with the NPPL and PSP now doing their own deals and in competition, but I'm not holding my breath for it. The shallowness and selfcenteredness of all the jerks who cheat just because they are not mature enough to accept defeat (someone always has to lose in a paintball match, that's how it is) has hurt the game and hopefully it will turn around soon.

That's it, I've made my point. Have fun with the rest of this argument.