Teenagers and Trash Talk

**silentdeath55** · 07-01-2003, 10:29 AM

The only time I yell is when I get hit and shout "i'm out", and the guy keeps shooting me. That pisses me off. This is not a big concern for me, as long as the game is played fair, and no fist fights break out in the middle of a game.

**shartley** · 07-01-2003, 10:38 AM

Re: Teenagers and Trash Talk

Originally posted by UThomas
So I was discussing paintball with some of my martial arts and football buddies, and we got onto the subject of trash talking and how the game has changed since it has gotten more mainstream. We came to this conclusion:

The kids now talk a lot of trash. This would not happen in any other sport with any level of direct contact. You almost NEVER have people talk trash in martial arts, because you get put in your place very quickly. And the good guys know what it took to get there and how far they have to go so they are usually humble. But in paintball, kids go around talking to or yelling at people in a way that would get them beat down in the 'real world.'

I stopped playing for a few years in college ($$$) and the first time I came back I had some 16 year old start screaming at me for being a cheater after he bounced one off my leg (he thought it was a wipe and bounces didn't count). At the end of the game I got up in his face and told him to STFU and then suggested where I thought he could go. I think he was shocked and was like "man, its just paintball."

What do you guys think? Is this something that is a concern for you all? I don't remember all this stuff 5-10 years ago, you might get one guy a day that got lit up start yelling, but now I hear it every game it seems.

**BajaBoy** · 07-01-2003, 10:45 AM

i will yell alot but in a friendly manner. As in yell are you out? Some times i will get mad when i See people whipe and then i usaly go off, but its just part of the game and were all good friends so we know it doesnt mean anything.

Also another time i will yell is in a turny. Im Always yelling but i really do think it helps bc of the cheating. I mean c'mon your enter a turny to get as far up the list as you can, why let someone cheat and get in a better rank then your team?

**NJPaint** · 07-01-2003, 10:51 AM

yelling is part of almost any team sport... I yell at my teamates more than I do my adversarys. Most of the time its simple, informative things like, watch the guy in the pyramid, he's about to run... or stuff liek that. Sometimes its "wtf kid watch the right side, protect the team, not just yourself" but thats normally when the 14 year old with the angel is hiding in this little bunker shooting at one guy and leaving an entire side open.

**oldsoldier** · 07-01-2003, 10:56 AM

I had a similar "overshooting" experience. I told them to knock it off, it continued. Finally, I put my gun down and started walking towards who was shooting. It was some kid, who said "it wasnt me" when I got to him. Well, seeing as he was like 14, I didnt do anything exceptt yell. I think the kid steered clear of me the rest of the day.
The thing is, kids talk alot of trash. And, sometimes their mouths write checks their bodies cant cash. Trash talk is OK, but, accusing people of cheating, deliberately overshooting, stuff like that irks me to the point of real anger. I mean, its one thing to tell another team they are gonna get whooped, or watever, in a joking manner; but, screaming obscenities in my face is just gonna get you hit. And, who's fault is that? Mine? I have little self control, sorry.

**Brak** · 07-01-2003, 11:13 AM

notice how you never said anything about how you football buddies are against talking smack? i can see how no trash talk is in martial arts, but football is one of the biggest smack talking sports ever, even ask Chunkwagon from the XFL

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it is just a game, and that kid yelling at you probably realized he made a mistake, and decided to leave you alone, and when you yelled at him, he saw no reason for you flipping out. obviously he was at fault.

my friends and i talk MAD smack about eachother. we bash the kid with the purple gun and all, and they make fun of me for using nitro even, seeing how only 3 places within 30 miles of me can even fill my tank. is IS just paintball, and its evolved into an "extreme" sport. and with that image all the courtiessness (sp?) or a gentlemens sport leave, and the smack talk, swearing, and "hardcore" element comes in. its a sad thing, but true. just dont sweat it, and next time some punk talks smack to you, dont say a thing, just make sure hes not on your team the next game

**Rebel46_99** · 07-01-2003, 11:18 AM

Sam & Soldier...

It's not just paintball where the trash talk comes in. How many times in everyday life have you heard someone from the younger generation show a complete lack of respect for anything or anyone but themselves. And, if you even attempt to correct them, you get a "Who TF are you?". Personal experience has shown that alot of it starts at home. My 2 sons know that if they ever came off like that, there would be major consequences. They're 19 & 24.

I know there have been other discussions on discipline and respect or rather the lack of it on here. But truth be known, if they had to put up or shut up the problem might disappear.

DW

Now we'll sit back and watch the ducks quack.

**lord1234** · 07-01-2003, 11:27 AM

Being from the "younger" generation(i am only 19), i actually am sad to say that some of us don't know what respecting an adult is. When its in good fun and you are shooting the proverbial dookie with a adult who is a friend its different. When its someone you don't know I find that I just keep respect. No reason to trash talk.

**shartley** · 07-01-2003, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Rebel46_99
Sam & Soldier...

It's not just paintball where the trash talk comes in. How many times in everyday life have you heard someone from the younger generation show a complete lack of respect for anything or anyone but themselves. And, if you even attempt to correct them, you get a "Who TF are you?". Personal experience has shown that alot of it starts at home. My 2 sons know that if they ever came off like that, there would be major consequences. They're 19 & 24.

I know there have been other discussions on discipline and respect or rather the lack of it on here. But truth be known, if they had to put up or shut up the problem might disappear.

DW

Now we'll sit back and watch the ducks quack.

**SpongeBobSquarePants** · 07-01-2003, 11:30 AM

I'm from the "Younger generation" and I talk no smack. Even when I played football, I was the one that had to get my teammates out of the faces of the other players and refs.

Back to paintball-When I play I may joke around and tell some guys that were gonna whoop them. Actually I prefre to play with the older guys for that matter. I don't think you had any rite to get up in a 14 year old kids face and cuss him there no need for that. Infact I'm 15 and I can almost say for sure you wouldn't do that to me, because A I don't over shoot and B I'm a pretty big guy.

In the actual games I yell alot, but thats because I'm a back player and thats my job, I never yell obsenties to the other team however.

I think smack talk has no place on the field unless its just in a friendly manner.

**seanpark37** · 07-01-2003, 11:42 AM

I'm 15, I got into paintball when I was 13 (right around the big "mainstream boom", correct?).

From the time I first played until now, I have followed proper ettiqute (sp?). Thanks to this guide I read on the net for first time players. When I would get an elimination on someone, I would request a paintchack rather than yell "YOU ------- CHEATER! YOUR OUT", when I suspected someone was wiping, I took it up with the ref after the game, I never intnetionally overshot.

After playing a few weekends like that, I had earned the respect of the field staff/regulars. I can now just go and use the chrony to set up a new part I got, then play one game to test it, and the guys wont charge me.

New players need to have it explained to them that it really is all about respect. The game is much more enjoyable if you and everyone else are treated with respect.

Then, there are kids whose personality just dictates that they can't respect others. I know a few. I have played paintball with many.

Then, there are the kids who simply have no respect for anyone, they are the ones starting flame-wars online, the ones taking off their masks as they walk off the field, the ones overshooting because its "funny".

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**Rebel46_99** · 07-01-2003, 11:49 AM

Did I say ALL of the "younger generation"? --- NO, but it happens alot more than it should.

And the point was brought up that Soldier had no right to cuss him there. Nowhere in Soldier's post did he say that he cussed him. That's not to say that he might not have deserved it though.

And... Big guy or not, doesn't mean a hill of beans to me. If you're doing something wrong someone should be in your face to tell you about it. Using size as an intimidation factor doesn't always work, kiddo.

DW

**seanpark37** · 07-01-2003, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by Rebel46_99
Did I say ALL of the "younger generation"? --- NO, but it happens alot more than it should.

Was that directed at me? I wasnt arguing with you, I was agreeing.

**seanpark37** · 07-01-2003, 12:06 PM

Gah.... I didnt see Square Pants' post.

Nevermind, then =)

Teenagers and Trash Talk

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