Teenagers and Trash Talk

[845]

I would suggest not taking what you hear on the field personally. When the tosterone and adrenaline is flowing you say things you would never say off the field. I yell and scream on the field but anyone who's seen me knows I am a very quiet person. Its the same in hockey.


*edit* After reading the rest of the thread I would say a lot of the arguing stems from the fact that in a tourny if something is at all questionable you argue it. If you can get the team to lose 10 points that may be the deciding factor. Trust me I know about that


*edit2* Going up to someone off the field and telling them they are a cheater is the stupidest thing to do. If someone is a wiper next time I play him he will just shoot him more to make sure it does not disappear. I have played tournies where unless you shot the person 3-6 times there was a good chance they would wipe and keep playing.

*edit3* Arguing calls in rec-ball is just twibbish.

[Rebel46_99]

Originally posted by SG Avenger
Personaly I'm sick of kids thinking they can get away with saying whatever they want to say, and talking back to people who are older than them, who've got more experience in certain areas than they do.

I wish CB could see this and take heed!!!

DW

[Evil Bob]

Kids today are alot less respectful then the kids of 10 years ago, who were alot less respectful of the kids 20 years ago, etc. etc. It seems each sucessive generation is getting progressively worse in regards to crime, attitudes, behavior, morals, etc.

Think about it... 30 years ago, how many fights broke out at a basketball or baseball game? Now its a common occurance. We've recently seen people kill each other over a ref's call at a little league game.

Yes, there is more trash talking now then there was 10 years ago, there was more trash talking 10 years ago then there was 20 years ago, etc. etc. We also have more violent crimes then we did 10 years ago, and 10 years ago there were more violent crimes committed then 20 years ago, more violent crimes comitted 20 years ago then there were 30 years ago...etc. etc. etc.

Back in 1998, I witnessed three young males spit on an 72 year old blind man (white cane and all) who was sitting peacefully on a bench waiting for the bus. They spit on him as they walked by the bus stop, several people witnessed it. When I confronted the spitters, one pulled a knife on me and attempted to stab me, I subsequently broke his right arm in 2 places and shattered his left knee, the other two immediately ran.

Government wants to blaim violent media (movies, games, radio, TV talk shows, etc.) for the lack of morals and respect. Just take a look at Joe Lieberman and what he's proposing as the downfall of modern civilization, they all point fingers at everything EXCEPT where the blaim is due.

It all comes down to how you were raised, you are, afterall, largely a product of your environment. If your parents didn't have a clue about morals, the odds are you won't either. So where do you place the blaim? Yourself? The people around you? Your parents?

You are your own agent, you are responsible for your own actions, get with the program before you have kids and contribute to the further decline in society.

-Evil Bob

[Frank (the spank)]

Originally posted by 845
I would suggest not taking what you hear on the field personally. When the tosterone and adrenaline is flowing you say things you would never say off the field

yeah, I know what you mean. One time there was a guy that ran to a bunker, i didn't know if i shot him while he was running but he popped out and I kept shooting, he never came up and put his gun in the air or yelled hit, so I kept hammering on his bunker.

then a ref and other players come running over waving their hands telling me to stop shooting. the guy pops up and is pointing and yelling and swearing etc. and is really fired up.

I guess he yelled hit but he had a mask on, is behind a bunker and I am shooting my E-Mag as fast as i can.. he was too afraid to come out with his gun up, lol

after the game he came up to me and wass falling over himself on how sorry he was and how he's not that kind of person etc. which I of course accepted and didn't think that much of it on the field. He was an older guy and I didn't mind all that much. But when little kids say you're out and call you their ***** and "owned", well.. they're just asking to have their head taken off.

[-=Squid=-]

Sorry if I offended you sam. I didnt write that in spite of the weekend, there is a difference between being a little depressed and angry. I didnt read a single reply, not yours, not anybodies. I read his post. He referred to "teens" as the trash talkers of the sport, which to me is highly stereotypical. Not once did he mention the adults that talk the trash. Sorry for offending the rec ballers, as I enjoy that occasionally as well, however not many recballers talk a lot of trash.


EDIT: I appreciate the level of maturity/seriousness you presented in the reply, in regards to my reply. Most would have just flipped the switch and flamed away.

[shartley]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Sorry if I offended you sam. I didnt write that in spite of the weekend, there is a difference between being a little depressed and angry. I didnt read a single reply, not yours, not anybodies. I read his post. He referred to "teens" as the trash talkers of the sport, which to me is highly stereotypical. Not once did he mention the adults that talk the trash. Sorry for offending the rec ballers, as I enjoy that occasionally as well, however not many recballers talk a lot of trash.


EDIT: I appreciate the level of maturity/seriousness you presented in the reply, in regards to my reply. Most would have just flipped the switch and flamed away.

Hey, no problem. It's all good.

[hitech]

Originally posted by Evil Bob
Kids today are a lot less respectful then the kids of 10 years ago, who were a lot less respectful of the kids 20 years ago, etc. etc. It seems each successive generation is getting progressively worse in regards to crime, attitudes, behavior, morals, etc.

Although there is question as to the authenticity of this quote, it is probably accurate enough for illistration purposes:

"Youth today love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, no respect for older people, and talk nonsense when they should be working. Young people do not stand up any longer when adults enter the room. They contradict their parents, talk too much in company, guzzle their food, lay their legs on the table and tyrannize their elders."

It sounds just like something you might hear today. It is credited to Socrates! Every generation says the same things about the previous one.

Originally posted by Evil Bob
We also have more violent crimes then we did 10 years ago, and 10 years ago there were more violent crimes committed then 20 years ago, more violent crimes comitted 20 years ago then there were 30 years ago...etc. etc. etc.

Actually that is not true. The violent crime rate per capita is less now than 10 years ago. We just hear about more of it.

Originally posted by Evil Bob
When I confronted the spitters, one pulled a knife on me and attempted to stab me, I subsequently broke his right arm in 2 places and shattered his left knee...

Your not taking any of this personally, are you. I'm glad to hear that you were willing to get involved. I would have too. :)

[UThomas]

When the tosterone and adrenaline is flowing you say things you would never say off the field

COP OUT. Thats the same mentality as the obnoxious drunks. You are responsible for your behavior.

Maybe a lot of the problem stems from the fact that this is one of the few things were you get such a wide range of ages and maturity competing at the same level.

Not once did he mention the adults that talk the trash.

In my 10 years of playing I have *never* had an adult talk trash to me. I'm sure some do though.

[FatMan]

Originally posted by shartley

Jeez Shartly, you telling someone to relax is like a dead man complaining because you stink! This guy has a perfectly legitimate complaint - that the issue isn't age - and he isn't justifying one thing with another, he's providing an example where the age argument doesn't work. If you didn't get so wrapped up in taking what HE said personally, you'd see that.

There are lots of people in this world, and a lot of them are selfish and walk around with a disregard for others. They think everyone ELSE owes them, and they think they have the right to lie, cheat, steal, and yell obscinities to get what they want. And some of them have children and pass on their poor attitude. If you don't like what you see in the youth of America, go home and look yourself in the mirror. Fix what you find there, and then worry about the other guy.

And for all you kids, the only way to deal with people who are less than honest, or less than polite, is to be polite yourself, and if need be, remove yourself from where they are (helps to let the other players and refs and field owners know WHY you are going to another field).

I've been there, seen it, done it. So can you.

FatMan

[superdesk2007]

I would never yell at someone older than me at a paintball field. Number one I would look like an ***. Number two people would think I'm a stupid kid with no respect. If I do something I usually say sorry.
I've noticed that kids that are ten years younger than me are swearing at me and just act like they don't care. Just talk to them and act like your going to talk to their parents that will scare them.

[LittlePaintballBoy]

Originally posted by UThomas
When the tosterone and adrenaline is flowing you say things you would never say off the field

COP OUT. Thats the same mentality as the obnoxious drunks. You are responsible for your behavior.

Maybe a lot of the problem stems from the fact that this is one of the few things were you get such a wide range of ages and maturity competing at the same level.

Not once did he mention the adults that talk the trash.

In my 10 years of playing I have *never* had an adult talk trash to me. I'm sure some do though.

alot of the pros are adults, and when i watch the pros they talk thier share of smack.

[shartley]

Originally posted by FatMan
Jeez Shartly, you telling someone to relax is like a dead man complaining because you stink! This guy has a perfectly legitimate complaint - that the issue isn't age - and he isn't justifying one thing with another, he's providing an example where the age argument doesn't work. If you didn't get so wrapped up in taking what HE said personally, you'd see that.

Originally posted by FatMan
There are lots of people in this world, and a lot of them are selfish and walk around with a disregard for others. They think everyone ELSE owes them, and they think they have the right to lie, cheat, steal, and yell obscinities to get what they want. And some of them have children and pass on their poor attitude. If you don't like what you see in the youth of America, go home and look yourself in the mirror. Fix what you find there, and then worry about the other guy.

Originally posted by FatMan
And for all you kids, the only way to deal with people who are less than honest, or less than polite, is to be polite yourself, and if need be, remove yourself from where they are (helps to let the other players and refs and field owners know WHY you are going to another field).

I've been there, seen it, done it. So can you.

FatMan

[-Carnifex-]

I talk trash to the other team and wave to them from cover, but it's all in fun. No one really takes that stuff to heart where I play, it's nice.

[Fatjon]

This weekend i was playing a game of woods ball. 5 people attacked one side so they sent more people over there. But when they came they got lit up by many people ripping on the trigger. But one really big guy (im big but not really big like this guy) got hit by id say 5 ball that were already in the air. It wasnt just my paint. He got this urge to talk about kicking my arse. So when i get off the field he comes over talking about kicking my arse (witch would bother me because he is an adult and i would like some money).

Then a little later in the day i got shot off on the break running to the 50. The reff lets me out and he just unloaded on me. Now i would have kicked his arse but i would have been the one getting my arse kicked.

[Evil Bob]

You're right HiTech, Socrates was very smart and observant person, I too have read that statement before.

Nope, not taking any of this personally, I'm too old to bother with taking things personally these days, especially in on an online forum :)

Per capita, yes, violent crime is down, largely due to the fact that the average longevity is steadly increasing, meaning we have more people alive in the US now then we did 10, 20, and 30 years ago. Once you break it down to the individual age groups that are committing the actual crimes, in this case males between the ages of 16 and 21, the violent crime stats are up big time as a whole.

-Evil Bob