Teenagers and Trash Talk

[spacedtedybear]

I play by the saying, " Make your words soft and sweet because you'll never know when you're gonna have to eat them."

[-=Squid=-]

You wanna know what I hate? Stereotypical adults who dont compare the situation to there peers before opening there mouths. Let me tell you a quick story. At the tourney we attended this sunday, I shot a guy who attempted to bunker me. He continued to run, and finally got my arm. The ref pulled him, and wiped my hit off. He pulled his mask off and threw it, screaming, ref, that was f****** bull**** dumb***, he was an adult. He got penalized. End of story. I dont see very many people act like you describe, adult or kids. I suggest that mabe you should play real paintball, and realize that 80% of the teams adult/young are good sports? My team has a mix, and we have never been penalized for any reason. End of story.

[oldsoldier]

Again, smack talk is acceptable, but there is a line. Like I said; dont get in my face. I am short, but, trust me, I can handle myself (I am not saying this to anyone in particular, just a general comment). DONT get in my face and call me a cheater. Trust me, I get hit, and it breaks, I'm out. Now, will I always stop what I am doing to check? No. But, will I wipe? Hell no. I dont mind the smack talk (its in all sports, I used to do it in hockey), but, again, a certain level of respect is lost upon the younger generation (again, a blanket statement). I think the respect part was lost when parents no longer had the right to control their children without DSS stepping in.
True, these are mostly exceptions...but, nonetheless, kids anger me when they do it. Especially when they are like 14 y/o, scrawny as a starving pup. Again, dont write a check with your mouth your body cant cash.

[shartley]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
You wanna know what I hate? Stereotypical adults who dont compare the situation to there peers before opening there mouths. Let me tell you a quick story. At the tourney we attended this sunday, I shot a guy who attempted to bunker me. He continued to run, and finally got my arm. The ref pulled him, and wiped my hit off. He pulled his mask off and threw it, screaming, ref, that was f****** bull**** dumb***, he was an adult. He got penalized. End of story. I dont see very many people act like you describe, adult or kids. I suggest that mabe you should play real paintball, and realize that 80% of the teams adult/young are good sports? My team has a mix, and we have never been penalized for any reason. End of story.

[Rebel46_99]

And your point is???

Squid ... You yourself admit that there's at least 20% that make fools of themselves. Once again, I didn't say ALL. And I never mentioned that ALL adults are perfect in their behavior, either. I won't argue that point because I, too, have seen some adults go off the deep end. AND, I have told them about it! And we're talking semantics here...

But... The attitude you just displayed is exactly what I'm talking about when I mentioned watching the ducks quack. If it wasn't a problem you have then you might not have taken it so personally. I will admit that I don't know you personally and by the same token you do not know me. However, I do respect your viewpoint, just not the way it came across.

Yes, I do know that the majority of the "younger generation" is not at fault. But, along those same lines, I very rarely see their peers doing anything about it.

DW

[UThomas]

I feel it is up to the Refs and other Staff to police that crap.

Maybe it has to do with the fact that the refs in paintball (at least at fields) are all kids/teens, where as in other sports generally you get adults as the refs. So the refs will have the confidence actually setup and control the situation.

notice how you never said anything about how you football buddies are against talking smack?

They are guys from work who play flag football. You don't hear trash talking there. Flag football is not marketed as entertainment like the XFL.

I yell at my teamates more than I do my adversarys

We all had guys like you on our highschool teams. We called them names Anyway, thats cool if thats your thing and you're on a team. I'm not big on being yelled at to move or whatever in a rec game though.

or a gentlemens sport leave, and the smack talk, swearing, and "hardcore" element comes in.

See, and to me I don't see paintball as hardcore. I actually see it as a relatively unathletic sport with no contact. (begin generalization ->) No we get all these kids playing who would have been lanky skaters in the 80-90's.

I don't think you had any rite to get up in a 14 year old kids face and cuss him there no need for that

Maybe so, but I know if you yell that a guy is a F'ing cheater in almost any other sport you're going to get smacked in the mouth if the guy is a competitor. New freshmen in college use to talk like that at judo practice and they would not come back after they got a concussion from the senior players.

I suggest that mabe you should play real paintball,

I've been playing for 10 years, I know what playing paintball is like thanks.

[Crazy]

Originally posted by oldsoldier
I had a similar "overshooting" experience. I told them to knock it off, it continued. Finally, I put my gun down and started walking towards who was shooting. It was some kid, who said "it wasnt me" when I got to him. Well, seeing as he was like 14, I didnt do anything exceptt yell. I think the kid steered clear of me the rest of the day.
The thing is, kids talk alot of trash. And, sometimes their mouths write checks their bodies cant cash. Trash talk is OK, but, accusing people of cheating, deliberately overshooting, stuff like that irks me to the point of real anger. I mean, its one thing to tell another team they are gonna get whooped, or watever, in a joking manner; but, screaming obscenities in my face is just gonna get you hit. And, who's fault is that? Mine? I have little self control, sorry.

It's part of the game, deal with it. People like you are the ones acting like a respectless kid.

[UThomas]

It's part of the game, deal with it.

Overshooting use to be MUCH less of a problem. I'm sure its partly because of the faster guns, but I can't help but think it is also this new "every rec game is a tournament" mentality that the less mature players adopt.

[oldsoldier]

Originally posted by Crazy


It's part of the game, deal with it. People like you are the ones acting like a respectless kid.

No, the kid that INTENTIONALLY OVERSHOOTS me AFTER I tell him several times to knock it off is the respectless kid. That is NOT part of the game. His ONLY intent was to anger me. Well, it worked. AND, he didnt have the balls to admit up to it after. Would I have smacked him? No, after all, he was a kid. Did I intimidate him? Yes, I think so. Was the problem solved? For that day, it was. I dont mind being overshot (well, I do, but, that goes with the game sometimes), but, when I tell you to knock it off, you shoot me 3 more times in the back as I walk away, just to be a jerk, then turn around and come after you, whose fault is that? Mine? You probably should've not shot me in the back, to make yourself "feel better", or whetever the reason is. It isnt funny, and, one day, someone is gonna push someone else too far.
And, its true, adults act like this too. We have all seen it, and, I'm sure, participated in it at some point. My point is, if someone tells you to stop shooting...do it. And, dont shoot them in the back, as they are walking away, cuz you're mad they yelled at you. Those type of actions bring nothing but worse actions. And, the last thing our sport needs is being get beat up on the field. Especially over someone's hurt feelings for being yelled at.

[Frank (the spank)]

I get sick of theses "You're out!" asshats.

It pissed me off enough i got into someones face about it and yelled "You don't tell me when I'm out I tell you when I'm out, got it?!?"

2 ways you are out in a game, you call yourself out or a ref calls you out, not some asshat yelling "duuuhhh oooh you're out!!!!"

One of theses days I'm gonna snap and tank whip the next little crap that says I'm out.

[shartley]

Originally posted by UThomas
It's part of the game, deal with it.

Overshooting use to be MUCH less of a problem. I'm sure its partly because of the faster guns, but I can't help but think it is also this new "every rec game is a tournament" mentality that the less mature players adopt.

[SG Avenger]

Personaly I'm sick of kids thinking they can get away with saying whatever they want to say, and talking back to people who are older than them, who've got more experience in certain areas than they do.

Now i'm not some grumpy old man, I'm 24, and I personaly think parents should beat their kids a whole lot more than they do. Argh and after growing up in Orange County, CA only reinforces that.

Of course there are older players who act the same way, yelling and screaming and ruining everyone elses day. Then walk back to their truck and slip back into their wife-beater and get back to their life.

BUT on the subject of rage on the field, hey, It hurts getting hit, and I think everyone is entitled to a little slip now and then.

[Frank (the spank)]

I agree SG Avenger, I'm 25 and I'm sick of theses spoiled kids.

Watch the Osbornes, see how Kelly and Jack act? They are an extreme, but this is how kids act when they have everything. Theses kids have parents that buy them high dollar markers along with everything else they want and theses kids have no respect for anything. So on the field they talk **** because they do not respect anyone else.

If I acted like this in public as a kid my Mom and Dad would have *****ed slapped my little ***. parents today don't smack their kids.. they talk with them.. work it out.. give them time outs.. and other hippy crap they picked up on how to raise a kid. Kids just nodd to get their parents to go along with it.

This isn't all kids.. but damn the little ****s do stand out.

[Nomad]

Wow... My fields never had too much of a problem with trash talk. Sure we take turns shootings friendly jibs at each other, but then afterwards it's our turn to take one or two. It's all in good fun (although I will admit... one time it did escalate to everyone throwing paintballs at each other in set up area).

We've never really had real big fights...

Then again, the paintball community around here is limited to about 100-200 regular players at any given time. So we're pretty tight.

[Crazy]

fights seem to be a regular thing in indiana