anyone ever get kicked off a field too?

[branman444]

Originally posted by hitech


Sorry, I don't buy it. You either left out something or failed to explaing the game of paintball to them.

Yea i falled to state that a paintball coming at my neck at 250/300fps at pointblank or less. Could Kill you. Yea right how lame do you think i am. Example my uncle and his son are both E-R docs. They both love and play paintball a lot. They both wear a cloth of somesort around there neck. Why you ask well ill tell you but you will prob just say somehting like i dont buy it. Well the reason is that they believe that if that paintball hits your windpipe it will crush it and you will DIE in about 2 min. or less. Mabie they are a little over protective but just so you know that is a possiblity and to make it worse he places the gun right on his neck. Where i dont know but in the cercumstance where he placed that gun on my neck all i would have to prove that it was life treatening. I think i have done that. If you dont buy it i dont care im not trying to sell it its fact.

[FatMan]

Originally posted by shartley

apology accepted.

FatMan

[hitech]

Originally posted by branman444
They both wear a cloth of somesort around there neck...Well the reason is that they believe that if that paintball hits your windpipe it will crush it and you will DIE in about 2 min. or less.

Since they believe that they take measure to insure it doesn't happen. So, again, it's just about impossible to prove that you believe you life would be threatened.

[branman444]

All im trying to say is that it is possible and that is all you have to prove. Sure it is a little less extream but who could prove that if i pull a gun on you i would ever shoot you? Nobody could ever prove that never i dont care who you have asking the questions. All you have to prove is that its possible. Is is possible for me to shoot you? YES!! Is it possible for the paintball to kill you under those circumstances? YES!! All you have to prove is the possibility that your life MAY have been in danger. Ill bet that it wouldnt be a problem at all to get a Doc. to say that your life could have been in danger at that moment of contact. even if he dont know about paintball or if he does as in the case of my uncle and his son.

[FatMan]

Originally posted by branman444
All im trying to say is that it is possible and that is all you have to prove. Sure it is a little less extream but who could prove that if i pull a gun on you i would ever shoot you? Nobody could ever prove that never i dont care who you have asking the questions. All you have to prove is that its possible. Is is possible for me to shoot you? YES!! Is it possible for the paintball to kill you under those circumstances? YES!! All you have to prove is the possibility that your life MAY have been in danger. Ill bet that it wouldnt be a problem at all to get a Doc. to say that your life could have been in danger at that moment of contact. even if he dont know about paintball or if he does as in the case of my uncle and his son.

branman, just for clarification ... who says "All you have to prove is the possibility that your life MAY have been in danger." and what do they say that guarantees you?

FatMan

[branman444]

The conceal carie law of OK. It states that if you feal that your life is in iminate danger then and only then you ahve the right to brandish your weapon.

[Evil Bob]

Lets inject some common sense here...

Consider the target area you're shooting at: 90% of your hits / eliminations will be on a target the size of a 12" dinner plate, ie. the head, neck, one shoulder, a hand/arm, the marker, and the hopper. This is assuming that 90% of the time you're trading shots with someone that is hunkered down behind cover, these are usually the targets that they present to you as they are shooting.

Considering that the neck is in that high probability hit zone, how is it we have never had a single case of a crushed windpipe in the past 22 years of paintball's history? Neck shots happen all the time, in my 21 years of playing, I've been hit in the neck countless times, the worst I've had to endure is endless jokes about my sexual appetites. I have even been hit directly on the adam's apple multiple times, twice at point blank range (under 5 feet) when someone was bunkering me.

If it was infact that dangerous to take a neck shot, wouldn't the field insurance agencies require full neck protection? These people have done their homework on injuries, crushed windpipes is not one that they list simply because it's never happened.

Its a fact of life in paintball, you get hit, period. There is nothing life threatening about it, if there was, the sport would require much more stringent protective gear then we currently use.

-Evil Bob

[Albinonewt]

Tell ya what Hitech, and all other naysayers. Here's how we settle it. We'll pick a place to meet, and I'll put my emag directly to your throat (not your neck, your throat) and fire. We'll do a few tests, say 5 sets each of 1, 3, and 5 round bursts. Then we'll see if that's something to be afraid of.

I mean seriously, if you don't belive that blunt trauma to the throat CAN be deadly then what planet do you live on?

[hitech]

Originally posted by branman444
All im trying to say is that it is possible and that is all you have to prove.

Nope, that is not what you have to prove. It does NOT have to be possible. What you have to prove is that you TRUELY BELIEVED that your life was being threadened. THAT is what you have to prove. Read Evil Bob's post to see just how hard that is going to be.

[hitech]

Originally posted by Albinonewt
Tell ya what Hitech...Here's how we settle it. We'll pick a place to meet, and I'll put my emag directly to your throat (not your neck, your throat) and fire.

Pay me enough and I'll go for it. It's not life threating.

[branman444]

Does your mask cover you temples? YES! have you ever seen or heard of anyone dying because it hit your temples. When the sport first started people all over used just goggles(eye protection). I know a few that didnt even do that. Stupid though it seems. But now try getting into a paintball feild with just goggles. You cant. I personaly never heard of any person dying because of a hit in the temple. I have been hit in the head from verry close (pointblanck)before and i dont think that would kill you. They dont care what i think. All i know is that they are docs. and know what they are talking about. Even though it never happened.
I dont care if you believe me or them or anyone for that matter. Ive done my reserch. I know what i believe. Its a lost cause you wont make me change my mind and vice-versa.

What happened to talking about themthere crawpappies and BEER.........

[branman444]

Originally posted by hitech


Pay me enough and I'll go for it. It's not life threating.

How much is enough???
If you truly thought that you wouldnt have to be payed to prove your point.

[shartley]

Originally posted by branman444
The conceal carie law of OK. It states that if you feal that your life is in iminate danger then and only then you ahve the right to brandish your weapon.

[hitech]

Originally posted by branman444
How much is enough???
If you truly thought that you wouldnt have to be payed to prove your point.

Sorry, it's going to hurt like hell. I'm not willing to go that far to prove a point. I'm more than willing to send a few minutes to prove something. I wouldn't let you shoot me point blank in the arm to prove a point.

And it would be more than you're willing to spend.

[FatMan]

Originally posted by branman444
The conceal carie law of OK. It states that if you feal that your life is in iminate danger then and only then you ahve the right to brandish your weapon.

Oh, OK, show your weapon. Yeah, I'd believe you could get away with that.

Now, pointing it at someone is a different story altogether. At least here in S. Carolina, showing (brandishing) and pointing at are two different things, and having a carry permit has no effect on pointing - but self defense does. I don't think you could win on pointing, at least not under the laws here.

The problem is, showing your gun, pulling it out, and taking two steps back would be more than enough to resolve the situation.

But of course it really depends on your laws, and they are all different. There is no language here that says if you feel threatened you can point a gun at someone. It would be up to a jury.

FatMan