anyone ever get kicked off a field too?

[raehl]

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz

I know what I should have dont though. I should have let him keep his bushy barrel in my neck. I mean in a heated situation there is no way that his light, easily agitated bushy trigger, would fire. So next time someone has a barrel to my neck, I will just let him keep it there. Maybe that would be the mature thing to do.

So tell me what did I do that was SO wrong and SO immature?

You never should have gotten close enough for him to stick his barrel in your neck in the first place.



You know, it's not like I don'thave any experience with kids on the paintball field or anything - we run plenty of tournaments, which many would say are much more "confrontational" than rec games, with plenty of players around or under 18 years of age.


I have yet to have ANY players get in anything close to a physical altercation. Closest I've had is a player swing a pack in the general direction of a ref, and that play cost his team the tournament and I'm pretty sure doesn't even play our events anymore. That was over a year ago.


Bad behavior is bad behavior.


- Chris

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Originally posted by Trench_Riader
Son, you are an idiot.

It's never a good idea to assault people. Assaulting total strangers is an EXTREMELY bad idea. YOu never know what you are getting into.

For example if you followed me out to the parking lot and attacked me this is what I would do. I would simply "turtle up" and attempt to minimise any damage you might do. I would not even attempt to fight back. (but see below) I would call out and make damn sure there were witnesses to the attack. Then when you got your fill, I would make record time calling the police and pressing assault charges. I would then laugh like a donkey while you were handcuffed and hauled away.

However if at any time the assault became more serious and it became a situation were "a resonable person would fear imanent death or serious injury" (the wording of my state's deadly force law) then I would shoot you. Now don't get me wrong, I don't play paintball packing real steel, but rest assured my carry piece is in the car. It's easier than you think to cross that line (just pick up a club or some other impact weapon) and I'm fortunate enough to live in a state that has both legal concealed carry and a very victim friendly set of self defence laws.

In short....stop and think before you act.

"Trench Raider"

ya im an ideot for pushing a guy down that had a gun to my throat. Just because everyone does react like you doesnt make me and ideot. Stop being closeminded and ignorrant.

Ya and you took your parking lot example to an unneeded level. I didnt beat the hell out of anybody. I could have. I could have knocked him down and kicked him repeatedly. Did I do that? No I simply knocked him down to get myself out of danger.

you can be the one that takes the shot in the throat and then ill "laugh like a donkey" when your on the ground gasping for breath.

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Originally posted by raehl


You never should have gotten close enough for him to stick his barrel in your neck in the first place.

- Chris

i wasnt anticipating have a barrel shoved in my throat. It wasnt going though my head "dont get to close he might stick his barrel in your neck".

and actually when it comes down to it. I was a respectable couple feet from him and he actually stood up off of the stump he was sitting on and stepped in my face. gun and all.

I admit the situation was avoidable. I shouldnt have gone off on him the way I did. Thats all I see myself doing wrong. Yelling at a player and swearing to the point he felt like sticking his barrel in my throat. That was also partially him tryin to be tuff to his gf.

I dont think I was in the wrong for pushing him. Most would react similar with a barrel to the throat.

[shartley]

[shartley]

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz



i wasnt anticipating have a barrel shoved in my throat. It wasnt going though my head "dont get to close he might stick his barrel in your neck".

and actually when it comes down to it. I was a respectable couple feet from him and he actually stood up off of the stump he was sitting on and stepped in my face. gun and all.

I admit the situation was avoidable. I shouldnt have gone off on him the way I did. Thats all I see myself doing wrong. Yelling at a player and swearing to the point he felt like sticking his barrel in my throat. That was also partially him tryin to be tuff to his gf.

I dont think I was in the wrong for pushing him. Most would react similar with a barrel to the throat.

You are the toughest person I have ever read about on an internet forum.

I hope that makes everyone feel better now. Now have some cookies and milk. Mind if I have some too?

[WicKeD_WaYz]

uhhh thats not what I was going for. I was making a thread to discuss a situation. And thats what we are doing. I never said you HAVE to partake in this discussion.

I know there are plenty of people on AO (like yourself) that take the "mature" route to every situation. Thats why I brought this up. I know a lot of people wouldnt react like me but I know some people here would react worse.

If you think im trying to be tough on the internet your kidding yourself. This is a MESSAGE BOARD. I brought a topic up for discussion. If you dont like it, dont add to it. there are plenty of threads here I dont agree with. I simply stay away from them.

The point of this thread was to have a debate over how people react in situations like this. And thats what we are doing. Everybody has a different opinion.

Or is it Sam's way or the highway?

Ok im not spending my whole fourth debating this though...

I have fuses that need lighting...:)

[shartley]

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz
uhhh thats not what I was going for. I was making a thread to discuss a situation. And thats what we are doing. I never said you HAVE to partake in this discussion.

I know there are plenty of people on AO (like yourself) that take the "mature" route to every situation. Thats why I brought this up. I know a lot of people wouldnt react like me but I know some people here would react worse.

If you think im trying to be tough on the internet your kidding yourself. This is a MESSAGE BOARD. I brought a topic up for discussion. If you dont like it, dont add to it. there are plenty of threads here I dont agree with. I simply stay away from them.

The point of this thread was to have a debate over how people react in situations like this. And thats what we are doing. Everybody has a different opinion.

Or is it Sam's way or the highway?

Ok im not spending my whole fourth debating this though...

I have fuses that need lighting...:)

[Athius]

MAN U SHOUld HAVE WAITED FOR A ANOTHER GAME AND BUNKER HIS A$$!!!

[845]

I once got kicked off the field for a game because these stupid kids dove into the opposite side of my bunker and I came around and shot them both. The field owner went nuts and dragged me off yelling this isnt a tournament this is recball. I bet if you played a real tournamnt u would get your *expletive deleted* kicked. Then in the staging area the kids were like good moves. And in the tournamnt are team walked his. I would have seen his point if I had run down the tape on a bunker run but they were in my bunker! I wasnt going to say surrender cause they would have just shot me. They had not made any rules about point blank shooting either in the staging area before games.

[Shift]

listen up

You should not feel bad about yourself wick ways. I'm really quite surprised by all the negative responses you have gotten here. Sometimes people are so stuck in their pictures of society that they forget what it means to be real. To me at least, that means stand up for yourself. Being the "bigger" man is a completely seperate issue. Related of course... but seperate in that it is not required for you to be the "bigger" man. Thats a question of personality. Personality is something that only you are accountable for.

I would have done the same thing because thats the way I am. Call me an ******* if you will, but immature/ stupid/ anything like that is unfounded. All it really shows is an inability to comprehend basic human nature and how it relates to human interactions. Being above human nature is kinda of like owning a lexus over a honda. It shows refinement, and control. It does not however show that a man is more mature or respectable or intelligent than any other.

Any given person could react in any givin way in any given situation. Its all about chemicals in our brains. Some would argue that the reactions that wicked displayed in this situation are actually the type of actions that alowed humans to propagate and thrive better than any other species. Once again however, morality is a whole nother issue.

[shartley]

Re: listen up

Originally posted by Shift
You should not feel bad about yourself wick ways. I'm really quite surprised by all the negative responses you have gotten here. Sometimes people are so stuck in their pictures of society that they forget what it means to be real. To me at least, that means stand up for yourself. Being the "bigger" man is a completely seperate issue. Related of course... but seperate in that it is not required for you to be the "bigger" man. Thats a question of personality. Personality is something that only you are accountable for.

I would have done the same thing because thats the way I am. Call me an ******* if you will, but immature/ stupid/ anything like that is unfounded. All it really shows is an inability to comprehend basic human nature and how it relates to human interactions. Being above human nature is kinda of like owning a lexus over a honda. It shows refinement, and control. It does not however show that a man is more mature or respectable or intelligent than any other.

Any given person could react in any givin way in any given situation. Its all about chemicals in our brains. Some would argue that the reactions that wicked displayed in this situation are actually the type of actions that alowed humans to propagate and thrive better than any other species. Once again however, morality is a whole nother issue.

[Konigballer]

who woulda thought this thread would've got this far?

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Im not at all surprised at the negative responces. I know there are guys on this board way more mature and responsable than me. I expected plenty of that when I made the thread.

Im actually kind of surprised at some of the more mature members giving me constructive critisism instead of outright bashing me as some of you have done.


-ryan

[shartley]

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz
Im not at all surprised at the negative responces. I know there are guys on this board way more mature and responsable than me. I expected plenty of that when I made the thread.

Im actually kind of surprised at some of the more mature members giving me constructive critisism instead of outright bashing me as some of you have done.


-ryan

[Shift]

Re: Re: listen up

Originally posted by shartley

Perhaps i have no idea what im talking about. But maybe i do. You talk about wrong and right as though there is some sort of ultimate truth in this world. Maybe there is... at least I believe there is. Without that, there is nothing that defines what is basic instinct versus what is refined behavior. Any response that a human would make in any case could be refered to as "natural" instinct. What i mean by this is that in the animalistic sence, we are all just doing what is natural to us as humans. For some that means thinking their decisions out. For others, that means going on reaction and instinct. The only thing that seperates maturity and immaturity is what you and what society define as maturity to begin with. And in that circumstance, everyone is right, and everyone is wrong. Who is to define? Religion would be a good start, but unless you say that you are using the bible/ koran/ other book as your basis for what is a correct or incorrect response, you have no basis. If you say... according to the social norm, he was wrong, id agree with you. But i put no stock in the social norm.



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