anyone ever get kicked off a field too?

[RTGuy86]

I myself have never been kicked/banned off/from a field but i have kicked several off. I think what you did was kinda stupid and only let this situation get to being words being said and then thats it. if you would have gone about it this way if we would have attacked/shot you oyu would have had a reason to knock the $h*t out of him. I myself while reffing adn in the middle of kicking someone off have had a barrel held to my face and they threatened to shoot all you need to do is give them one of these and turned around and walked away. I did that once and the kid hit me in the back of the head and then it broke loose. The kid was charged w/ assault and i got away free of charge because he hit me first and the cameras caught him. if he would have hit you(and there were no cameras) im shure that the refs would have stepped in(atleast thats what the refs and myself would have done at my local field) and resolved this problem. but when you reacted you had a adrenaline rush and didnt think twice about knocking the kid s0 you did and i myself have been in the same situation, can we explain it? probably not should/will we make the same mistake? well....... lets hope not. but thats just my .02

[sneakyhacker420]

i've had my armband pulled for accidently entering the field without my goggles on


thats about it...

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Originally posted by shartley

I seriously hope you do not think of me as one who has bashed you.

I know many here that have also spoken quite frankly about what they think, but fall quite short of bashing as well. Just because someone states an opinion that is not what folks want to hear, or may be negative, it does not in itself constitute “bashing”. And far too often on AO “bashing” is tossed around when what happened was not bashing.

Paintball players are sure funny some times. You can never tell when that tough skin and exterior will become microscopically thin……

no i was not referring to you. Im not sure what that last line meant. But alright.

[raehl]

Well, I may be one of the ones who bashed you...

But frankly, I'm sick of cleaning up the mess people like you create.

You don't exist in your own little vacuum, as much as a wish you did. When you do stupid stuff like that, there are other customers present, perhaps parents, who knows, maybe even a school administrator or a legislator. Those are people who say 'Man, I'm not letting any kids play paintball if they're going to get assaulted by other players.' or 'Man, people who play paintball just get in fights with each other, this isn't the kind of sport I want kids involved in.'

Now, is paintball really that way? No - but these people don't get exposed to a lot of paintball. You get one shot - and all it takes is for some punk like you to happen to go off when someone "important" is giving paintball their one shot to ruin it.

Just like the guy who doesn't get it when the field owner went beserkbecause he 'bunkered' the players onthe other side of his bunker - it doesn't matter if THOSE PARTICULAR players didn't care - they could just as easily have been two 12 year olds playing for their first time who are going to go home with big nasty welts on their back and, assuming even they want to play again, might not be coming back because their parents are not happy with the result.


See, what you guys are missing is your behavior is screwing it up for everyone else, and that's why it ain't ok.


- Chris

[the_next_guy_]

was this "the town" at Penalton? it has string around the edges, so you could not have stepped out of bounds without tripping.

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Re: Well, I may be one of the ones who bashed you...

Originally posted by raehl
But frankly, I'm sick of cleaning up the mess people like you create.

You don't exist in your own little vacuum, as much as a wish you did. When you do stupid stuff like that, there are other customers present, perhaps parents, who knows, maybe even a school administrator or a legislator. Those are people who say 'Man, I'm not letting any kids play paintball if they're going to get assaulted by other players.' or 'Man, people who play paintball just get in fights with each other, this isn't the kind of sport I want kids involved in.'

Now, is paintball really that way? No - but these people don't get exposed to a lot of paintball. You get one shot - and all it takes is for some punk like you to happen to go off when someone "important" is giving paintball their one shot to ruin it.

Just like the guy who doesn't get it when the field owner went beserkbecause he 'bunkered' the players onthe other side of his bunker - it doesn't matter if THOSE PARTICULAR players didn't care - they could just as easily have been two 12 year olds playing for their first time who are going to go home with big nasty welts on their back and, assuming even they want to play again, might not be coming back because their parents are not happy with the result.


See, what you guys are missing is your behavior is screwing it up for everyone else, and that's why it ain't ok.


- Chris

ok I dont know you. And frankly, Im glad I dont know you because you sound like a prick. You sound like some stupid field owner that cares too much about your personal image. I will let YOU be the one that takes a shot to the throat someday. Were you the kid that got picked on in school? LOL Did the bigger kids beat you up and take your lunch money?

All im saying is you seem to have hatred towards us "punks". Hey buddy guess what. If it wasnt for us "punks", this sport would be broke and not near as big as it is. Like it or not most paintball players are within the ages of 15 and 25. The numbers may even be lower than that. A big majority of them would have reacted the same way as me.

I have a challenge for you. Go to your local tournement. Stand on the side with a gun and play Mr. Referee. When you see someone that deserves to be out. Dont bother telling the ref. Just shoot them. Do that 10 times and come back and tell me how many of those "punks" cussed at you.

What im saying is. I reacted the way a lot of people my age in the sport would. I cussed a guy out then defended myself when a barrel was shoved in my neck. PERIOD

So before you go calling me a punk. Go check some stats and see exactly how many of us "punks" fund your precious field or whatever the hell you work for.

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Originally posted by the_next_guy_
was this "the town" at Penalton? it has string around the edges, so you could not have stepped out of bounds without tripping.

you were close. Try towns at tombstone.


If you are familiar with the field its the far side, and basically right in the middle. The boundry marker was knocked over and laying on the ground. Like it always is lol.

[AngelBoy]

Originally posted by shartley

Glad you werent trying to bash him and all, but Im not sure what that last line is if its not a sarcastic bashing phrase for you to get the last word in.

People screw up, move on.

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

Re: Re: Well, I may be one of the ones who bashed you...

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz
ok I dont know you. And frankly, Im glad I dont know you because you sound like a prick. You sound like some stupid field owner that cares too much about your personal image. I will let YOU be the one that takes a shot to the throat someday. Were you the kid that got picked on in school? LOL Did the bigger kids beat you up and take your lunch money?

Yeah that's almost relevant. Nobody beat me up in school. I still don't like punks/jerks.

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz
All im saying is you seem to have hatred towards us "punks". Hey buddy guess what. If it wasnt for us "punks", this sport would be broke and not near as big as it is. Like it or not most paintball players are within the ages of 15 and 25. The numbers may even be lower than that. A big majority of them would have reacted the same way as me.

I've seen 40 year olds curse someone out on the field over things similar to this. I'm also 22 years old and i wouldn't react to the way you did.

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz
I have a challenge for you. Go to your local tournement. Stand on the side with a gun and play Mr. Referee. When you see someone that deserves to be out. Dont bother telling the ref. Just shoot them. Do that 10 times and come back and tell me how many of those "punks" cussed at you.

You weren't at a tournament, you were playing rec ball.

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz
What im saying is. I reacted the way a lot of people my age in the sport would. I cussed a guy out then defended myself when a barrel was shoved in my neck. PERIOD

You and the rest of them are all wrong and immature.

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz
So before you go calling me a punk. Go check some stats and see exactly how many of us "punks" fund your precious field or whatever the hell you work for.

Just because you pay to play at a field, doesn't give you the right to act however you want. You'll learn someday. Or maybe you won't and something like this will happen again. Except maybe he'll pull out a real gun and kill you. Or you'll kill him and go to jail for murder. Oh well.

Seems funny to me that you admitted yourself that you knew people would come down on you for being immature when you posted this. Then you get upset when they do. Why bother even posting it if you knew it was going to upset you. How can you even get upset if you asked their opinion, then get mad when they give it? Cause you don't agree with it?

Doesn't seem like to me that anyone's really bashed you. I think that just might be different interpretation and/or perception.

side note: Sam: stop being so logical. I've always wanted to disagree with you just one time. We always seem to have the same opinion on just about everything. Stop it.:)

[WicKeD_WaYz]

alright im done typing a lot.

it comes down to this.

I got mad. Reacted with harsh words.

He threatened me. I defended myself.


Plain and Simple


You can have any opinion you want but where was I wrong? cussing at the guy? Ya not doing that would have avoided it. But whats done is done.

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz



You can have any opinion you want but where was I wrong? cussing at the guy?

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz

Ya not doing that would have avoided it. But whats done is done.

Answered your own question, and i couldn't agree more.

[Shift]

hey TheBigRaguPB4

Dude, you should probably read the posts i wrote earlier, and just calm down. Put things in perspective a little man.

God bless America

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

I did read your posts and i totatally disagreed with them. And who's not calm?

[cockermongol]

Originally posted by Trench_Riader

if at any time the assault became more serious and it became a situation were "a resonable person would fear imanent death or serious injury" (the wording of my state's deadly force law) then I would shoot you. Now don't get me wrong, I don't play paintball packing real steel, but rest assured my carry piece is in the car. It's easier than you think to cross that line (just pick up a club or some other impact weapon) and I'm fortunate enough to live in a state that has both legal concealed carry and a very victim friendly set of self defence laws.

In short....stop and think before you act.

"Trench Raider"

From what I can make of your post, seeing as a gun barrel to the throat (at least to me) seems to encompass a situation where "a reasonable person would fear imminent death or serious injury", you would've just turned his head into a canoe - instead of pushing him away in an attempt to avoid bodily harm.

How would blowing the kid away be more justifiable than shoving him away?

[raehl]

Thing is..

He's not justified by any "self-defense" excuse.

Self-defense requires that you avoid a hostile situation. Since he's escalating the situation, he's got no defense. The other guy could just as easily argue that he put his barrel in his neck because he felt threatened by the guy approaching him.

- Chris