anyone ever get kicked off a field too?

[ZCute]

omg iw ish i would have been there i woulda been laughing so hard when your friend lit him up.

[Lohman446]

"We Do not and Can Not ship airguns to New York City and surrounding areas, New Jersey, Michigan, Philadelphia PA or Chicago IL, so PLEASE don't ask, call, E-Mail or order AIRGUNS! We have no control over the laws in your state or city. So, please do not ask us to violate them. If you place an order it will be automatically canceled. Your credit card will not be billed and you will not receive product. All airgun orders will arrive ADULT SIGNATURE REQUIRED, we do not ship airguns to persons under the age of 18, NO EXCEPTIONS!"

This was a disclaimer from a sight selling a .40 caliper paintball gun AirGunStore.com. Now Im partially pleased with this because it leads me to beleive that Michigan is one of the few hold backs (I read the transcripts from the NJ case that legalized paintball on a challenge - they had been considered a firearm in NJ till then I think it was 1988) Now Im not pleased with this because it appears that Michigan is one of the few hold backs - whats up with that? As such I would hope that someone with some financial backing would take the time to try to resolve the Michigan law, to clearly exclude paintball markers as firearms? Tom, you there?

[Lohman446]

Here are the proper steps to legally purchase a paintball gun in MI - btw, if you follow these steps you have legally admitted that your paintball gun is a firearm, and thus are subject to assault and battery prosecution for using it. Not to mention a purchase permit to buy it, a safety inspection.... so, maybe I need a PO box in Montanna or something... On the plus side I can contact my state representitive, if he has time he might be able to help. At this point I am going to assume that common sense rules... and if this law is so limited, perhaps it can be changed.

I dont have the link to the website I got this off of, sorry about that.
Michigan residents, if you would like to purchase something other than a .177 caliber air rifle, we will ship it to you, however you will have to follow the steps below:

1. Inform our company of the item you want to purchase.
2. The item will be shipped to the designated dealer/retailer in your area. Your job is to find a participating dealer/retailer and let us know where to ship your gun.
3. Go to your local police department to obtain a Permit to Purchase the airgun. Each airgun purchase must have a separate Permit.
4. After the Permit is issued to you by the Police take it to the gun store where your gun will be shipped.
5. After the Permit is presented to the store and the fee is paid they will hand over the airgun to you.
6. Take the airgun back to the police department, where they will conduct a safety check and ballistics test.
After it is determined that the gun is safe and tests are conducted you will be ready to take the airgun home.

[Blazestorm]

Although I'm against what you did wicked... I would have done the same.

How I react to **** like that, Show them not to pull it again. Sick of people being little *****es, its a game, not something that you're going to lose anything on. I would have just taken the shot in the neck and turned around and lit him up. IF he even had the guts to pull the trigger which most people don't.

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz
whoops. Let me refrase that one.


ok no i didnt hit him. It was more of a push.

I doubt that.

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz
ya dont get me wrong im sure there are plenty of guys that could whip my *** in a second. But im no pussy i know how to fight and I do it very well. But if someone does kick my *** some day. Good for him. I probably deserved it.

The Language!!!!

Originally posted by WicKeD_WaYz
Im the last person that wants to bring fighting into paintball. Its just I reacted without thinking I guess. I care a lot about our sport and the image that we put out. The last thing I want is a paintball tourney to end up like a hockey game or a Raiders game.

Obviously not, otherwise you wouldn't be fighting while playing. How can you get so pissed when getting shot while playing paintball? Give me a break. If you get that pissed off when playing for getting shot, being someone being a jerk or not, you need to just not play.

[Recon by Fire]

Fighting and paintball, two things that should not be together. If you want to fight, go to the gym and get in the ring :) Do try to remember that it is a game.

[rkjunior303]

I guess it's time for my 2 cents..

Well, resorting to fighting is stupid in anything.. I mean, especially in a RecBall game.. This isn't the World Cup. BUT, If it happened to me, I (and it sounds like you) defnietly would've treated the situation alot different if given a moment to think. As for the gun to the neck - now I forget why exactly this event happened but the minute that gun went to my neck, I would protect myself because I would feel my safety would be endangered. When your that close to the neck, you are too easily able to get under the mask. I don't know about you but I love my eyesight. I would protect myself. Although, Pushing the other person might have set off the marker, too - so its a catch 22.

tough decision.

[nitewolf_9]

I'd like to say I would have acted mature and done the right thing in that situation, but if some little punk aimed a paintball gun at my neck I'd have to say I would have picked him up and thrown him into a tree. That'll learn 'im.

[DWill]

Unfortunely it does not sound like the kid learned his lesson, especially if he give you the middle finger as you were leaving the parking lot. Was he kicked off the field too? I sure hope so because he deserves just as much as you and your friend to be banned from the field. You were definately a bit hot headed there and handled the getting shot in the back situation poorly although I will not critize you for defending yourself when he held the barrel to your neck. It is my personal belief that fighting should be an absolute last resort, although I am easily able to break a few bones myself. Keep paintballing, use your brain and listen to fatmans sage advice :)

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Let me clear a few things up.

When I first got shot in the back, I didnt no where it came from but I went ahead and immediately put my hand up and walked towards the dead zone (10 feet away in this case) confused. Then my friend yelled. it was that M f'er right there.

So then I was pissed and in all the arguing, im sure I was cussing a lot and im sure I was yelling. But at no time did I threaten to hit him or anything like that. But ya I called him about every name that came to mind. He couldnt handle my whits making him look stupid in front of his friends so he jumped back at me with a barrel in my neck.

O and Ill add he was there with a group of guys and some chick so maybe he thought he was cool by putting a barrel in someone's neck, I dont know.


And lastly for whoever questioned me...No I did not punch him in the face. He had a mask on. Tell me what hitting someone in the mask would accomplish. I simply hit his barrel away from my neck and threw my body weight into him and pushed him down. (actually it was quite jackie chanish)
:)

My friend then tore into him only because he had opened up on me from his position in the grass.

[breg]

Hmmmm, wow. I really don't know how I would have acted in that situation.
Being a non violent person, I don't think I would have shoved him. I guess I'm scary enough that I would have not had to do anything to him.
Sorry Wicked, but I have to say you were in the wrong in this one. I know he shot you from out of bounds, and then put his barrel to your neck. You just have to think the thing through. I don't know, but if you become a problem child at a field, won't you be permantly banned? Is it really worth it? I mean it. Dude, it's more than just fighting. Don't you know that once you trun 18, you can be arrested for fighting someone who is not 18? Or yu can be arrested for fighting in general. An arrest record is not something you want.
I've always felt that violence is a last resort. I know you've heard it before: You can't solve your problem with you fists.
I'm not trying to judge, I'm trying to show a little concern for a fellow baller. I guess I could sum it up in just be careful, and think before you act.
Keep it cool,
Breg


EDIT: Is this kid related to Jeremy Salm?

[MattG]

I hope the creator of the tread reads this but i thought the whole situation was handled good. If a guy shot me when he was out i would of got in his face but i would have gotten a ref too. If he stuck a barrel in my general direction agin i would drop my baby (my mag) and push his gun out of my way and deck him several times. Then pick up my mag and tell him to leave before i get mad. If i got kicked out for it well then no biggie i had it coming. The only thing out of line was the guy in the dead box in my opinion!

[Blazestorm]

I go on instincts. I don't think straight when someone pisses me off. I do stupid stuff and don't think about consequences, many people do the same and It's something we can't handle. If I'm going to get kicked out of a field for getting in someones face for doing something like that, than the field sucks and I shouldn't go there. I've seen worse at my local fields and we just make them sit out. Sitting out is worse than leaving imo. Because you have to SIT... and WAIT... and stare at everyone else having a good time. Leaving all you think about is how crappy you think the field is run and how horrible it is, which is very easy to do.

As I said before, wicked_ways : Although I disagree with what you did, I would have done the same. If someone did that to you would you drop your gun and surrender or something? He has a paintball marker that shoots little gelatin balls pointing at the back of your head. Not a glock. The right decision would have been to keep walking.

And actually I did get kicked out of a field for 2 months because I wouldn't let them burn my friend's jersey (they hate my friend yet they let him play)

[Shift]

hrmm

Doesn't anyone here just like to fight for the sake of fighting?

It seems to me that the fact that people are playing paintball shouldnt really have any signifigant detering factor above any other activity.

Hrmm

[joeyjoe367]

Wicked_ways,

There are many of us who would claim to be so mature as to be the "bigger man" and step away from that kind of situation. I do believe that many of us here (mainly the older ones) would have done so.

I would not have been one of those people.

I'm generally an easy going, nice guy. If I've offended someone, or accidently over-shot a player, I will personally apologize for my actions. It's happened before. My friends I play with can attest to that.

but when someone steps out of line like that and personally insults ME in that manner, I would have let 'em have it. I'm not a big guy and I know how to pick my fights so I'm not stupid ( I wouldn't take on stone cold steve austin).

I have a short temper when it comes to these kinds of situations. Especially when I feel threatened.

If someone put the barrel of their loaded and ready paintgun to my neck, I sure as hell would feel threatened. I could imagine what a point-blank shot could do to your neck; perhaps if it hit an arterial in your neck.

Although I will say that you need to take the advise of those who said that you made a bad decision, I want to add that you shouldn't feel bad about what you did. You did what 90% of us would have done at your age (probably the same as mine) considering the situation. I believe people forget what the heat of anger, frustration, and contempt can do to you.

besides, who are we to judge you?