anyone ever get kicked off a field too?

[jdev]

Originally posted by SlipknotX556
....the kid starts to yell SURRENDER, now you cant yell that when playing with me or anyone I know, it states right in the insurance form, that you have to sign, but beside that....

you have an insurance form that says you cannot yell surrender.. heh, thats a little different.

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back to the story at hand

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im sure that there is something missing here. we know that wicked supposedly stepped out of bounds, dead man shot him and then we skip right to wicked having a barrel in his neck.

now, im no forensic scientist or anything.. but im sure some choice words were exchanged prior to this.

now, whether wicked was right or wrong, thats for each individual to decide. im sure at the moment, what he was doing he thought he was right in doing so (and im sure he still thinks that)

if I were put in the same situation, you can bet my marker would have been on the ground, and the person pointing a marker at my neck would have been sure to follow quickly.

i dont know if you were wearing a neck protector, and not sure what part of the neck the marker was pointed at.. but, you realize a marker that is chronied to field specs, usually around 285 fps (provided its not a rental.. ), to the windpipe could possibly kill someone at that close of a range? even if it was a rental, could have caused signifigant damage..

so yes, in retrospect, he was right to shove the person away, regardless of what was said prior to the incident. I know I would not want a marker pointed at my throat, and I wear a neck protector..

now, was his friend right in lighting the kid up, in a way yes.. what would have stopped the kid on the ground from stopping firing on wicked here if his buddy didnt jump in. im sure any other bystanders were watching in awe as they say what happend, and were too preoccupied to pig pile the kid shooting wicked.

bottom line.. do i condone this, no. could have this been handled another way, yes. did it, no. will it happen again, lets hope you and everyone else learned a lesson from this.

you have a problem with someone, grab a ref or other field authority and have it dealt with that way.


.joe.

[WicKeD_WaYz]

Re: sum up

Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY
OK, my last post because talking to you, Brak, and one or two others here is just a waste of time. You want to be arrogant little tough guys, go for it. You'll learn your lessons at some point in the real world when mommy and daddy aren't protecting you. You have a sheltered life right now, so just don't say you weren't warned your behavior and attitude was going to get you in trouble some day. You only have yourself to blame.

A person isn't a man because he doesn't back down from fights, that's being a bullheaded jerk that no one likes. Don't be that guy. You're a man because you know when to choose your fights and only fight when no other respectable alternatives exist and you have to. Use your philosophy and take a swing at the first cop that tells you that you can't do something or gives you a ticket, see where that gets you. Nowhere or jail. This game (I repeat, GAME) is a high adrenaline one and if you can't handle it properly as you obviously can't, you shouldn't be playing.

Adios all you wannabe thugs, just don't think you're fooling the rest of us or impressing us. I can assure you that you're not.

sheltered? when mommy and daddy stop protecting me? (SCREW) off. You dont know where I come from. I dont have a dad. Thats all im gunna say about that. I dont wanna hear your closeminded (POOP) about wanna be thugs. I dont wanna be anything.

Before you open your mouth dont assume everyone is a spoiled rich kid. I have had a hard life and got in my share of trouble. That doesnt me Im "trying to be a thug" I dont need some (BUTTHEAD) like you telling me who I am and who I shouldnt try to be.

Open your eyes. Not everyone is as priveledged as maybe you have been.

ya you nailed it though, thats me, trying to impress people on the god damn internet! youve gotta be kiddin me bro. Ya I would like that to be your last post. Dont come on this thread talking about my parents and me being sheltered and other (POOP) you dont know anything about. That will piss me off real quick. You dont know me. Dont make stupid assumptions.


EDITED TO CHANGE A FEW SELECT WORDS. SORRY IDE RATHER NOT GET A 3 DAY VACATION OUT OF THIS.

[Brak]

Re: sum up

Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY
OK, my last post because talking to you, Brak, and one or two others here is just a waste of time. You want to be arrogant little tough guys, go for it. You'll learn your lessons at some point in the real world when mommy and daddy aren't protecting you. You have a sheltered life right now, so just don't say you weren't warned your behavior and attitude was going to get you in trouble some day. You only have yourself to blame.

A person isn't a man because he doesn't back down from fights, that's being a bullheaded jerk that no one likes. Don't be that guy. You're a man because you know when to choose your fights and only fight when no other respectable alternatives exist and you have to. Use your philosophy and take a swing at the first cop that tells you that you can't do something or gives you a ticket, see where that gets you. Nowhere or jail. This game (I repeat, GAME) is a high adrenaline one and if you can't handle it properly as you obviously can't, you shouldn't be playing.

Adios all you wannabe thugs, just don't think you're fooling the rest of us or impressing us. I can assure you that you're not.

you make me sick. you are a pompous moron. please, dont post again.

[shartley]

[JesseB]

Well I say Wicked did what I personally would have done.... I guess I am more immature cause I would have kicked the living crap out of someone for pulling that crap and threats of shooting me in the neck...

Well I have left several fields voluntarily. One I pulled a bunker move on a guy and instead of ripping him i said "surrender, surrender, you're gone!!" he turns his head looks at me, and then proceeds to lift his tippmann and shoot me with it three times with the barrel on my leg. He caught about 6 balls for his trouble as soon as I realized what he was doing. he then jumps up and starts wanting to fight me my friend comes running from across the field and I am yelling at this guy for shooting me after he was obviously out and not playing by the rules of the field (aggressor in a bunker move eliminates other during surrender play) well we dont get in a fight but he is crying cause he is bleeding from his finger when i have 3 blood blisters raising on my leg and one bursts spewing blood down my leg... then has the nerve to call me a pussy when I dont even complain... Well the field manager refused to do anything so me and 5 friends who all shoot about 2 cases a weekend apiece will never return to his shop, or his field for any reason.

Then the last time we played at another field I was on the 50 off the break and had the flag. I lateral the flag to a team mate and take off on a bunker run and nail a guy. The guy is reinserted I am pulled and the flag replaced all because I threw the flag...wtf... he was the last one left so my team mopped him up and my team won no big deal to me. Just realized that the Refs liked to change the rules as they go and make up there own rules. Ok next game another example of how bs the field is they want to have volunteers to let them hide their guns in the DIRT and then let other people find them and use them with only a little air and like 12 balls in them ummm how bout no....sat that bs game out.... Next game we gear up and go out there to show them our skills cause the owner (who is cool w/us wanted us to waste his regulars so they wouldn't think they were paintball gods) So we go out there and we are playing (btw gun hits dont count there, cause you wouldn't be "dead" in real war) so i catch one in the feedtube and it sprays my mask I tell a ref so he won't think I'm wiping he gives me the nod to go ahead. A chick ref who barely even plays said i was wiping so I point my gun where she can see the feedtube she yells that i pointed my gun at her... Grrr....I tell her to get out of my lane so i can keep playing. Then at the end of the game her brother gets in my face about it I tell him to shut up and if she didn't know what she was doing and she didn't want the risks she shouldn't ref. Their mom gets in my face I tell her the same and to get out of my face. They tell me i could have broke her mask if i shot her cause she was kind of close well i proceed to pop my gogs 9 times and then said oooohhhoohhhhhhh it didn't break...Then this redneck with no teeth gets in my face and takes my gun from me wtf again.. I shove him my friend grabs my kit and the redneck starts telling me how I made a bad judgement call and all this crap so I tell them to shove their bs and we all leave after I apologize to the field owner and his wife for any inconvinience to them and they say they are going to talk to the others. They got kicked out for a weekend for starting crap and making me and my buddies not want to go back anymore. So we Play somewhere else and don't deal with bs and the field owner doesn't tolerate any messing around which is a great change. MORAL: MAke sure the refs where you play are top notch it will make your playing alot more enjoyable

[WicKeD_WaYz]

there is one thing I have never understood in life.

When you are bunkering someone. Why the hell would you say surreneder?!?!?!

LOL All of the fun lies within shooting them!!

[FatMan]

Originally posted by JesseB
Well I say ... MORAL: MAke sure the refs where you play are top notch it will make your playing alot more enjoyable

I read this and it at least SOUNDS like at least there was no anger or violence used ... and if the refs were as made as their made out, I'd have to agree, I wouldn't play there either.

I must admit, having done quite a bit of reffing in both tourney and rec play, many, many refs out there don't see to know what they're doing. And sometimes incidents like the ones described in this thread would at least have been mitigated by good refs on the ball.

One of the ones I hate is the ref who thinks he isn't supposed to get hit. When I ref I usually take more paint than anyone else - more than the average guy who has been overshot - in order to be there when the action takes place. That way there is not question on the call. I can't tell you how many rec refs think their job is to sit on the side of the field and wait for someone to call them. Of course, realisticly, ya need at least 4 refs to do a good job on a game, and I realize not all fields can afford that. All the same, they need to know the rules, COMMUNICATE the rules, and be on top of the action - preventing an argument before it starts.

It IS the sign of a good field, when they have good refs. And saddly darn few of them do. BUT, if you find a good ref, you should tell him so, even when he makes a call you don't like. And tell the owner too.

FatMan

[Lohman446]

Under certain laws there could be a strong argument made that a paintball marker qualifies as a legal firearm - it definetly does in Michigan (at least as I understand it). When used in games and in "legal" ways it has been overlooked - if you start doing things that get the criminal justice system involved expect a severe problem... that being said, the first person that sticks a paintball marker to my neck outside of the game is going to meet with an appropriate reaction. Just a thought to consider

[shartley]

Originally posted by FatMan

One of the ones I hate is the ref who thinks he isn't supposed to get hit.

[WicKeD_WaYz]

the only time I have had a serious problem with a ref was at tombstone paintball park in southern cali. They opened ALL of the fields up that day for what the like to call a "big game".

Its just for fun and its one of those, when you get shot you can go get resurected and come back in. Its like a giant basically ongoing game. Just for fun. But since they opened all of the fields up. There were these field nets, that didnt get taken down, hanging all over our giant field.

To make a long story short I was on one side of the net not leaning against it though. An opposing player ran up to the other side of the same net. So im looking at the guy like 2 feet from me. He was leaning up against the net.

So... I shot the net. Plain and simple. The net was in our field of play. There were no signs that said no shooting through nets. It seems to me like its another form of bunker. So i tore into the guy and he called himself out and walked off.

The ref came over and pointed out HOLES I had put in the net by shooting it. He then proceeded to call me out of the game and said I couldnt play until after lunch.

this is what I didnt understand. The net was in the field of play. There was no rule against it. Just because they have cheap nets and you can put holes in them doesnt mean I should be punished. I thought it was time for new nets. So I told him that. Then he was all "DO YOU WANNA PAY FOR NEW NETS!?!?!?" so basically I got kicked out of a game because one of their bunkers was inneffective.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Lohman446
Under certain laws there could be a strong argument made that a paintball marker qualifies as a legal firearm - it definetly does in Michigan (at least as I understand it). When used in games and in "legal" ways it has been overlooked - if you start doing things that get the criminal justice system involved expect a severe problem... that being said, the first person that sticks a paintball marker to my neck outside of the game is going to meet with an appropriate reaction. Just a thought to consider

[JesseB]

Wow those sound like good refs Shartley I bet they even have a rule book on the premises lol. And don't be such a puss man throw a fit and start kicking names and taking (butt). lol

I can see both sides of the mature and the immature it would depend on what was going on if I resorted to physical violence if it is something that the field owners should handle then i say go for it but if it is something that is personal and not going to be resolved then I say get out of the situation any way necessary then fight-or-flight.

[poloniusreep]

[omni]

The second the Kid jabbed the barrel into your neck he was no longer using his Marker to play the game or have fun. Which changes the context of the Marker, it now becomes a weapon.


The second that happened I would have turned around and decked the kid and whopped the living crap out of him so he was unable to get anywhere near his weapon to cause me any harm. The fact that he SHOT you after you pushed him totally proves he was willing to use his marker as a weapon.

[-=Squid=-]

ok, well im not the fighting type, and im not about to make SOME people in particular look bad (you know who you are ) but I dont think I could EVER tolerate something like that. Ever. But I dont play recball either.