Timmy = most popular / dominant gun at PSP Philly Open 2003 ???

[JT2002]

Originally posted by xXHavokXx
One of the guys who comes to my shop has a magnetic trigger kit on his Angel Speed, he found a way to hit the side of his gun or the trigger just right and it can bounce for a good fifteen shots. If yo try to sweetspot it, it wont work so looking for bounce would be nearly impossible.

does he have aim, email, or an ao name? id like to contact him about the trigger, and his settings

[Kaiser Bob]

Hehe, dude i didnt see your questions to me until now! ah well couple months late... Anyway, I simply with a semi light grip on the gun, not too loose and not a death grip, pulled the trigger slowly, if it was a long trigger pull, lingered around the firing point. Worst culprits would probably have to be the eblade cockers, i pulled a ton of them and even the naughty dogs who had theirs set up to not bounce would occasionally do so if you linger around the firing point. Next would be timmies, although the NPPL scrutineer Dave is better at bouncing those then i was. Only 2 or 3 speeds had problems but then again there werent that many there. The A4's were fine, but then im assuming they were all bought at the event and not tinkered around with. Other then that just random issues here and there.

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
No sKiLLz,

I know how to check for bounce... I was asking Kaiser Bob, how he checked for bounce...

I also wanted to know, from the guns he checked at the event, which ones had the most bounce.

My guess would be Timmy. One, since there were obviously more timmys there than any other gun. Two, the crazy combination of the Timmy's kick plus the Equalizer debounce 1 or 2.

When chronoing, couldn't a player set his debounce really high, and then reset it really low as he's walking on the field?

Since he's not adjusting the veloctiy, is it legal?

Do the rules say anything about this?

What about guns where you can adjust the MAX ROF?

On some guns, if you can adjust the MAX ROF easily (gripframe buttons), they could use this same procedure to beat the trigger bounce testing. If they wanted to cheat, they could set their MAX ROF to 1 BPS while chronoing, and then reset it to 20 BPS as they walk away from the chrono station...

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by Kaiser Bob


...Worst culprits would probably have to be the eblade cockers...

I'm not surprized. I've recently had the chance to toy around with a friend's E-Orracle...

OMG that thing bounced sooooo much due it's huge reciprocating mass. It was just about as bad as a hair trigger Black Dragun.

[Python14]

The only e-blade I've shot was an F/X Micrococker with Worrblade and it had bounce like I've never seen. I can seriously see some issues with a gun like that. Timmys are no different...which is one reason I don't really like them.

[Ultimator]

Originally posted by Lord_Whoopass
NO NO NO... Its cuz Timmy's Cheat... I mean c'mon any average joe can shoot like 18bps wit a timmy w/ the Was board... So if you have no skillz at all of course yer goin to shoot a timmy... lol all you have to do is fake walk yer trigger... On the other Hand I love my E-mag (its not as nice as the Tunamax though) and can shoot as fast as any cheater timmy user...

No you can't. WAS Boards are great and all but it sucks because I've literally spent hours practicing shooting / walking my trigger left handed and now I've gotten it up to a 9-10 bps range and some WAS board user can hit 18 on either hand . Hah .. it's all good though

[Jack & Coke]

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