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[Python14]

Ya know, If you told me I could never shoot an electro for the rest of my life....I wouldn't cry.

Though I can't say I don't like shooting electros, because I do.

However, to answer your question, I'd rather shoot a mechanical. Once I get an RT valve and LX, I'll be an unstoppable force.

[Mag Master 04]

mech baby

only way to fly, ill never give up my baby, all AGD needs to do is make ULT for the old ReTros now, and ill be happy

[Nick O time]

I like both

but my favorite is a electric gun with a long pull . go figure it's almost like mech with half the work, i like it.

[Pyrate Jim]

26 markers in my kit, more than half of them pumps, not a one of them electro.
I play tourney with a Carter Comp against electros, and never feel disadvantaged.

But tinkers and technology will always make advancements in the hardware we use, and it's the high-volume players on tiny speedball courts that keep the game growing.

[mr_mich]

I enjoy having my Nasty with the longest pull possible, because then the magnets just make it really really fun.

Long pull + magnets = sheer joy, no matter what.

[Interceptor]

I sold all my semis and now play pump only.

It is crazy how people are whining because they think they won't be able to get that extra .25 shots per sec out of the gun of the month. Here is a hint, learn to aim.

Tom- I like you man, you make good stuff and treat your customers good, but I gotta go with Tyger, pumps are far from dead. There is a brand new company making new pump and stock guns, CCI has so many orders that they are on back order, I'm having to wait 6 weeks to get my Phantom stock VSC in Urban anno, There are tons of old SL-68IIs, PGPs, Traccers, and others that get used everyday. You sure your not thinking that because the Mag Pump kit bombed? (I would love to have one of those BTW) Pumps are far from dead. Old School 4ever!

[Lee]

retro lvl 10 mec minimag
mac-1 annihilater
sniper 2
pgp
piranha sb pump (palmerized to stroker someday...)

don't need no stinkin lectronics.

[RoadDawg]

I think Mech's are gonna phase out like pumps did. Personally though I feel that both are fine playing together. I would not mind seeing a mech only tourny. I finally upgraded to a E and I love it. I still own my Retro mini and I love that to. The E will definatly have a higher choice over the mech any day.

[pyropiggy]

Pumps are my favorite gun to use. I play pretty much exlusively with my modifided s/c phantom, when not using the phantom i run my 68 special or my pgp. I run a 9 oz on there along with the s/c feed. Although i like useing electro and mech semis i realy enjoy the extra challenge of stock class. But i do like the mech marker more than the electros by a long shot.

[Strider]

I think there is almost two camps that should be consulted here... There is the tourney scene, and the rec-scene.

For me, I have two answers. For rec-ball, I don't care if there are electros. I play pump, mech and electro depending on my mood.

For tourneys though, give me my Emag. Yes yes we all know that skill is whats important, but given equal skill, equipment makes a difference.


As well, I think Tom hit a sore nail when he mentioned the demise of pump. It's obviously still out ther, but the pump tourney scene has pretty much dissapeared...

EDIT - As a side note, I believe that trigger bouncing does need to be addressed. No, I'm not talking about the RT bounce...

[Duke Henry]

I love my Emag and since getting my hands on it, my RTP has been sitting in its box doing nothing.

Fact is that I prefer my Emag over all other mags I have used, and I absolutely would NOT want to part with it.

I pretty much only play tournaments now, and I can say from experience (yesterday in fact), that I can not consistently shoot out 1 player off of the break in virtually every game I play. This is something I could not do with my RTP, since it was harder to attain the same rate of fire right off of the hop.

Also, it is comforting to know that if I need to shoot off a good string on someone moving on a run, my Emag can put a good volume of paint to decrease the likelyhood of bounces, which used to hamper my performance on the field.

That being said, from a business standpoint, I would wager over 90% of business is for recreational players, not tournament players like myself and so mechanical would likely be a good route to appeal to the overwhelming majority...

[Athius]

Well i really like electros for the very short and very light pull but when it rainin u cant use them and that sucks i m the kind of guy that plays even if it rainin o shinin.

So mechanical are good and waterproof but mechanical are slow but since AGD came with the ule trigger makin a mechanical trigger walkable they got me stuck in there i dunno what to do either go electro o go ule trigger. But ill first buy a x-valve and the ule trigger and if i like it ill stay with it and forget about the electro.

[50 cal]

Just flood the market with electro's and tell SP to go urinate up a rope! The p-ball guns would already be out there, can't close the barn door with the horse already out. They can't make everyone turn in there guns they already own.

[BradAGD]

I want to start by saying that if the SP thing goes through and Tom wants to promote (or even put on one himself) a mechinical tournament...

I will attend it
I will promote it
I will tech it
I will play in it
I will run it in a certain company's face

BUT

Tom, you better be prepared for SP to sue over the exclusion of their guns.

"brad steps off of his soapbox"

I started with a Nelspot, I own about 14 guns with only 1 being an electro (My badarse Emag from Tom) and that's my only semi even. I will play with my Emag or any of my pump guns at the drop of a hat, any field, any tournament, any opponent. I may get smoked every game, but I'm out there, putting everything I have into it every game.

If electro go the way of the T Rex (sorry Tom, had to go there), I'll still play but there will be a certain feeling every time I pull the pump back and push it forward that the industry has come to this.

I will support Tom and just about anybody he supports over this. I might have said too much but it needed to be said in my opinion.

Enough babbeling.

thanks for listening.

[Downfall]

The sport has changed, there are kids that play now that have never even used a machanical marker. Now a days even "starter" markers have electronic triggers, just look at all the spyder clones with electronic triggers. There is no way that the sport is going back technology wise. The game is played differently, picture an Xball game with mechanical guns... it just wouldn't work, Xball is bult with high BPS in mind. I'm not giving up my elctro guns. My guess is smart parts will probably win the suit, and anyone that wants to stay in the buisness of selling guns will just have to pay the licensing fees, I just hope Smart Parts is fair in their licensing. I doubt small manufacturers like ICD will make it through this. I sure hope AGD is in good shape after all this. Just my opinion.