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[Ronin 23]

Re: Re: Here's my 2 cents

Originally posted by adam shannon


i find that when im using the sfl or xmag i shoot just for the sake of shooting fast...my game actually suffers from the endorphine rush i get from the sound the gun makes ripping that fast...lol. when im playing with one of my mech mags i play better because at half the rof of the electros i have to concentrate on playing better. i find that i actually get more satisfaction and enjoyment from playing mech.

You tend to be more deliberate when you play with a mech. That's my dos centavos.

[FistS]

I right now, own a clasic mag with a cut-triggerguard 2x Benchy.

I can rip about 8bps on that bad boy consistently.

When i'm playing with the mag, i have a much more "realistic" approach toward my game.
I know i can't just stand there and string off an insane amount of paint in a few seconds, as I could with an e-blade, so i'm a lot more careful and "accurate" with my shots.

I recently got the chance to play a full day of 7man's with Dayspring's E-cocker. Let me tell you, i felt a lot more confident knowing i had the same firepower as those i was facing, and it helped me step up my game a bit, being able to lay down paint at a fast rate of fire.

I think it all comes down to whether or not people could get used to shortstroking with mech triggers should it happen that there e-guns are "gone" . Oh the glory of not short stroking on an emag or e-cocker

The industry is in for a major change if the lawsuit passes, you all can see that. But if the court system, as it is so proclaimed, does it's job correctly, I don't believe that we will have to worry about returning to mech guns any time soon.

P.S - But it would be cool if Tom, regardless of the courts decisions, made a new mechanical assembly for those who do not have a lot of $$ to dump into a gun.. say in the range of 4-500 dollars? The intelli is nice etc.. but it seems that you have an idea for something better if the lawsuit turns the tides per say.

[Darthmal2086]

Yeah i see where this is going..

I see where this is going. I think ill always shoot a mag. Electro or not... I dunno. Pretty stupid what SP is doing... There hurting paintball, i dont know how they can sleep at night (8 I shoot mech... Always have, never had a problem with short stroking ever since i got used to it... I mean it doesnt take focus away from ur game at all if your used to it, its like breathing. I dunno, just saying a little somthing here... i sure hope SP loses, and they lose alot of business becouse of this.

[Ov3rmind]

I would be fine with mech only if everyone else had to follow. It would give me an excuse to buy two Hybrids (slider and hinge) and a totally ULE Mag.

[magmonkey]

would we play mech only tournies ....? definatly

would we play at mech only fields ? sure

would the ten players on my team who have invested $1000-$2000 each on high end electro markers be happy about not being able to use them for what they were supposed to be used for ?? not at all ...BUT if this will somehow help alot of the companys in the paintball industry from taking a major hit (and alot probably going out of business) then we will step up to the plate

I love my mech mags but it is kind of a tough thing to tell a dirt poor team that can't get up enough money most of the time to play the events they want to that they now essentialy have $20,000 worth of very high tech paper weights. but if the industry goes that why we will follow.

Alan Gliniak
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[Branchvillian]

Honestly, it's all about how I feel for the day. If I'm running light on paint, I turn my e mag on mech mode. If I have a little more paint, or my team is playing something where they need the support of an electro, then I fire up the electronics! I think the E mag was an awsome mixture of the two, and I love being able to play however I want to for the day!

[WDPsoldier]

if everyone used mech's, i'd use an electro, and own some ***.

[TAG]

We have been discussing this quiet a bit lately with our factory team members. At the present they are all using WDP speeds so it has been a bit of a concern for us if the local events turned to electro-only or mech-only based on the current politics in the industry.

All of the players that have had the opportunity to shoot by RTpro with ULE trigger (and L10) do not seem to think it would be an issue to move to that setup for the entire team if needed. This is the first time in my pre-90's paintball existance that a mechanical gun has impressed me this much and it definately has peeked the kids interest.

If I had to field our 7man team with the same setup I have, it would not be an issue in the least. Regardless of who or what happens I will make sure our game is not disrupted.

What changed will take place? Maybe eliminate the 45/4500 tanks on the team and be a bit more cautious who's products we purchase

[punkncat]

Well I guess I can jump into the tailend of this mess...lol

I really enjoy my mechanical marker.I also enjoy my electro marker.I see times when each one has a distinct advantage over the other.
I would hate to see a regulation be put into effect against electro markers in general.Maybe a regulation on allowable bounce in the trigger......but thats another story.
If a field had a rule for mech. only it would not phase me.I know how to aim and shoot rather than spray and pray with both my markers.
I could see running lanes being much easier on the mech only fields......


One other thing.Many people involved in paintball don't want to see electro markers go away.
Field owners , shop operators , and paint manufacturers love the fact that people can shoot so much paint to achieve a simple goal.

[breg]

Well, just because I monkey wrench everything here are my two cents:

Why not have a tourney where all the markers were similar? Kind of like how it's done in stock class, but with all the bells and whistles.
Just think, you could have it split up into different divisions: Pump/Stock Division, Mech Division, and Electro Division. There would have to be certain criteria for each division. I'll focus on what the Mech Division could use. Mind you, this is just me being really bored and having nothing else to do.

Mech Division Guidelines

1. All paint markers will have no electrical componets driectly realted to the firing of a paint ball. (So that way you could still use revvies, warps, EGGOs, game timers, etc.)

2. "Full Auto" is disallowed. No marker with a "Select Fire" option (ATS 10 and 85 for example) will be allowed. Also, "Run Away" will also not be allowed. Though limited trigger bounce is accaptable.

Um, that is all I could think of for right now. Before any one gets froggy, I'm assuming (but we know what happens when we do that) that you realize that I know that we will have to wear face masks and the chronometer limitations, but this was just some thing that I thought of and maybe some one on here could take the idea and do something more with it.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

lol i dun really care. mechanical only fields i can just switch off my electronics. then when i wanna use em i just switch em back on with my x-mag

[AGD]

Thanks everyone for your feedback. It looks like mech will be alive and well for some time to come! We are still working on trying to come up with an even lighter mech trigger which would make everyone happy.

AGD

[doubletap]

Lighter than the ULE Trigg

Lighter than the ULE Trigger sounds great....can't wait. What else do you have up your sleave??? MAGS ARE BACK!!

[Riotz]

Tom,

Good idea you had with the all mech tourney.

I don't think you will get rid of electros though. But if you can find a cost efficient way to shoot just as fast as an electro, which I think you have in the ULT, then this all mech tourney will be great.

Although, it was said before, it only takes one ball. Unless you are like the team we played at the last tournament, where I had to shoot him 3-4 times after he wiped. =P


I know guys who fan/walk the trigger and lay allot of paint and have no skill. Accuracy by volume; as they call it. May just be the same with the fast mechs. But you won't have to spend that much on your gun and batteries. Or worry about it being charged. Plus it will be lighter. You will be able to move faster.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

I would use a mechanical any day. If somehow electros got banned think how much more business AGD and WGP would get. Then again think how much business WDP, SP, AKA etc. would loose. Everyone would have a cocker or X-Vlaved mag, then our days as the rulers of the paintball world would arise!!