Be an *** Kicker not a Mouse Clicker!!

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • dre1919
    www.andrewsloan.com
    • May 2002
    • 1548

    #106
    Actually, I've seen this kind of thing coming for quite awhile. I started playing with Splatmasters and have seen the technology in this sport grow to completely out of control levels. I mean, damn...we have guns doing 30 bps, infared eye chopping systems, digital compressed air tanks, etc. While all of this stuff is very cool and certainly lends a lot to the sport, it seemed only natural there would be a breaking point. At some point, a large group of people would here the din of technological noise become so loud they just say "Enough!" and settle into a "quieter" existance playing with limited paint and technology. Sort of like just going back to the basics of of the game, just for the love of the game. This happens in every sport really, kind of a circle of life I guess.

    Maybe a pro or college football coach has been coaching at the top levels for so long he quits and go back to a 1-AA school or a high school, where things slow down a bit and he can once again focus on just the game. I think having a "mechanical renaissance" would definitely help the sport by putting it's ego in check. I think most paintballers have at some point felt superior because of what kind of equipment they were carrying. And if they haven't, they've fell prey to the idea it would make them a much better player. Technically, to be just as good of a player as the next guy you need the same level marker as him (pump, semi, etc.) with the same amount of paint. However, that' not why Timmies and Angels fly off the shelves. They sell because word of mouth has it they are "the best" and "that's what the pros use". They are great guns, but so are a lot of others.

    I think a mechanical trend would be good grounding for the sport, but unless this thing with Smart Parts comes to fruition, I don't see it ever taking place. It's too easy to buy an ESpyder these days for the cost of a mechanical.
    sigpic

    Comment

    • Jack & Coke
      TUNAMAX No. 1
      • Jul 2002
      • 2644

      #107
      Originally posted by Miscue


      ...The ULT is great and all, but I would love to see it go one step further if possible. A reliable hair-trigger if it can be done...

      Hi Miscue,

      I've been tinkering with an old idea...

      - Lighter than stock RT trigger
      - Shorter, crisper, snappier than stock ULT setup

      here's what i did:





      It's just an experiment! I have no conlusion if this mod is a success or not. Just tinkering!

      Comment

      • Lefty
        The Nub
        • May 2001
        • 715

        #108
        Originally posted by AutomagBoy
        I think tom has a growing fear of that lawsuit coming up.....

        I dont think he wants to lose his entire electronic line to SP.

        I think that if smart parts is worried about competition that much, they should build a better product. My mag has stuck with me through thick and thin, never keeping me from playing so I'll always be AGD all the way! Oh yea, SP can go to hell!
        LeftyTheNub

        Comment

        • Ronin 23
          Registered User
          • Mar 2002
          • 138

          #109
          Originally posted by BradAGD
          I want to start by saying that if the SP thing goes through and Tom wants to promote (or even put on one himself) a mechinical tournament...

          I will attend it
          I will promote it
          I will tech it
          I will play in it
          I will run it in a certain company's face.......

          I will support Tom and just about anybody he supports over this. I might have said too much but it needed to be said in my opinion.

          Enough babbeling.
          Babble away Brad, I'm with you on this one. I've already done away with my electros. My gear bag now has the best dynamic duo that I've ever had....Mechanical A/M and A/C.

          Enough said.....
          /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
          Capt. of the PBX Legion
          PBX Battlezone - Toms River, NJ
          PBX Paintball Station Inc.

          Comment

          • Grubel
            Registered User
            • Sep 2002
            • 23

            #110
            It does seem that the "arms race" has gotten out of hand. At what point is bps too fast? Is it more fun to shoot 20bps than 10bps? When the guns are so fast that it makes it almost impossible to move to another bunker without getting hit, something is wrong. This is one of the reasons we are seeing so much wiping and slide-wiping into bunkers. It's making the game into not moving, or cheating, neither of which is what paintball is about or I want to be part of.

            Comment

            • Tyger
              video /k radio star
              • Oct 2002
              • 1210

              #111
              While uploading hte vid tonight I was thinking 'bout this a bit.

              The SMG 60 was banned for two reasons.

              First was the 62 cal paint that was allowed to be shot at 325 FPS. Ouch.

              SECOND, and more important to the discusion, is that the 9 balls per second was considered to be "TOO FAST" a rate of fire at the time (Around '90 or '91).

              If only they knew...

              -Tyger


              "Oh, you're wearing a tail and ears, you're a freak."
              "No social change has ever come about without freaks. Einstein was a freak. Ben Franklin was a freak. Martin Luther King was a freak. ...be proud to be included in those ranks."
              -2, The Ranting Gryphon

              Comment

              • 845
                Banned
                • Nov 2001
                • 1809

                #112
                In response to Doc's statement on cheating and the honor system.


                I was watching X-Ball at Philly and I saw no cheating whatsoever in all the game I watched in either D2 D1 or NXL. I am sure it goes on but it has become a whole lot less prevalent because of spectator participation. Having people scream at you from the stand because all whole crowd of people saw you wipe has a positive effect on the game. Also in an LA Ironmen game the coaches would yell at the players on their team hit so they would not get a playing on penalty.

                Spectator participation also keeps the refs doing their jobs. With the people yelling at them from the sidelines they are quicker to check the player.

                Comment

                • Sir Andre
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 10

                  #113
                  I just got myself my first E-mag. I am loving it.
                  Strider was nice enough to let me get his old one, while he found someone to buy my RT Pro that I won at SKYBALL from the banner contest (with Strider).
                  As stated I love the E-mag and would keep it, but if everyone were to use a non electro marker for tourny's to help shut down (not so)Smart Parts, so would I.
                  Either way AGD all the way.

                  Comment

                  • Creative Mayhem
                    AO's OFFICIAL CANUCK
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 3633

                    #114
                    Welcome to the electro mag family Andre...

                    CM



                    Owner:Purple People Eater - AFTICA XMAG
                    Data Drops Tunamart Havoc_Online TheMagSmith Deadlywind LoadSM5Graphics

                    Comment

                    • gtrsi
                      Automag?
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 5786

                      #115
                      dont know guys,
                      I am selling the mag I just built because I really enjoy my shocker. Hard to play tit-for-tat when you have a 2-3 1-2 sistuation and the timmy, angel, aka, emag crowd is gunning for you. the ULT is great for folks that come from an electro background however I have been shooting mags for years and felt that the benchy tigger frame was perfect, just a little long. Benchy Y frame hmmm....
                      FOR SALE
                      on/off, sear, PROConnect
                      AGD back bottle asa, laser logo

                      Comment

                      • Recon by Fire
                        Enimo Et Fide
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1706

                        #116
                        Well, I am not about to part with my X-mag anytime soon but why stop at a return to mechanical? I would have loved to enter the sport in the days of stock class

                        AGD X-Mag #XT00187
                        AGD Tac-One
                        WGP 2003
                        Marker Pics

                        Comment

                        • AkumA
                          TENDERIZED
                          • May 2003
                          • 454

                          #117
                          *sorry i haven't read everyones post but...*

                          haha, this thread rules.

                          i have an electro, but not all for it. i like my pump


                          ahh, going to the field with only 500 balls...i love college.

                          feedback

                          Comment

                          • Riotz

                            #118
                            Well, I do agree that allot of people just shoot allot of paint with their e-gun, hammering a bunker, hopping they will hit something. That takes no skill.

                            Comment

                            • danheneise
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 531

                              #119
                              i did give up my electro for my new mag, well it was only a black dragun but still i vote YES

                              Comment

                              • adam shannon
                                Registered User
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 805

                                #120
                                Re: Here's my 2 cents

                                Originally posted by SocialD
                                I have never played with an electo-marker and I'm sure that I never will. I can empty a hopper plenty fast without an electronic trigger. I actually find that I get many more eliminations when I fire less than 350 balls or so per game in a 5 man tourney. Just wailing on the trigger for the sake of wasting paint isn't going to win you games. THE SHOTS HAVE TO COUNT!
                                i find that when im using the sfl or xmag i shoot just for the sake of shooting fast...my game actually suffers from the endorphine rush i get from the sound the gun makes ripping that fast...lol. when im playing with one of my mech mags i play better because at half the rof of the electros i have to concentrate on playing better. i find that i actually get more satisfaction and enjoyment from playing mech.
                                "whoever did that in the bathroom needs to start eating right and go see a doctor" - Tunaman, AOSC 2

                                "back in the day of pumps this would have taken all @!#$ing afternoon" - Albinonewt , "Treatise On Welts"; chapter 2: The Electro Revolution

                                Comment

                                Working...