Speed Check/ W.A.S.

[Wynken]

a smooth Mhz...

That's really fast polling... what do you use to debounce the trigger switch?

-Wynken

[Digger]

Well, I can see that. But I think the question he was asking was how does it increase the rate of fire on an Impulse? I could be wrong. I dont know the answer, but I do know that pre-WAS my friend's 2k2 wasnt getting higher than 16, post-WAS we were hitting 20+.

Its nice to see you post out here. Go Arizona, as few of us out here as there are.

Also, is there a projected release date, or is it still too early to tell?

And how did you enjoy Huntington Beach?

[Bucky]

looks like he out shot the halo for just a second. looks nice. my impy friends will be happy with that.

[thecavemankevin]

so Jim, when is WAS going to make a board for the emag?

Next on my list for my timmy is a WAS board and i think that your products are well worth the $ (love the thermometer by the way). Any update on the link?

[WickedAirSportz]

HB was great!

Tex just made me a new Halo with special software to drop at 32 bps so I can do some full auto videos. Yes, I think that there are a few times that I outrun the Halo's spring cone. The new Halo will fix that.

No boards for eMags. I don't know if it is even necessary, and I know the market is not currently large enough to warrant production. We would have to sell 250 units just to break even on production costs.

There is no release date for the Impulse version.

We got 10,080 Equalinks in and we are doing assembly (connectors and cases). Look for them on our website when we reopen, but I know its going to be flood of orders.

[hitech]

Queuing trigger events can increase your ROF. However, I personally believe that it should NOT be considered semi auto. The marker does fire as a result of a trigger pull and release, however, it does NOT fire WHEN you pull and release the trigger. I believe the WHEN clause should be added to all semi trigger pull definitions.

Queuing trigger events can also be dangerous. The longer the queue, the more dangerous. Overshooting can become a real problem with long queues. Just think what COULD happen with a 32 element queue.

[Jack & Coke]

Is the queue in the Equalizer is only the length of the cycle time...? compared to the original timmy board queue of 3/4 second.

Over shooting? How many "extra" shots can you put into the queue?

[hitech]

If the queue is "only" the length of the cycle time then it wouldn't be overly dangerous. It still has the potential to continue firing after you release the trigger (although for an admittedly short time). I still fully believe that "my" WHEN clause should be added to the definition of semi-auto.

[Jack & Coke]

Isn't it possible to negate the queue with the debounce feature? (Debounce time = computer ignores all trigger pulls for x amount of time)

If you set the debounce time eual to the queue time, wouldn't it cancel the queue? ...solving your concerns?

[hitech]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
Isn't it possible to negate the queue with the debounce feature? (Debounce time = computer ignores all trigger pulls for x amount of time)

If you set the debounce time equal to the queue time, wouldn't it cancel the queue? ...solving your concerns?

Sure. But why have the queue in the first place? Also, if the user can change it on the field then it's not semi "legal".

My point (yeah, I do have one ) is that "my" WHEN clause should be added to the definition of semi-auto. It covers a lot of the "tricks" currently being use to artificially increase ROF. Trigger bounce being one of the big "tricks". Then again, that one is covered by the current rule.

[WickedAirSportz]

Unless you can pull the trigger faster than the cycle time (typically about 45ms), then the que won't happen at all. So, unless you can pull the trigger in excess of 22 bps, you will never have any shot ever qued.

[Digger]

Well I guess I'll need it then. That would be so insane if I was getting ahead of myself, and I stopped pulling the trigger and it still fired one or two shots.

[shartley]

Originally posted by WickedAirSportz
Unless you can pull the trigger faster than the cycle time (typically about 45ms), then the que won't happen at all. So, unless you can pull the trigger in excess of 22 bps, you will never have any shot ever qued.

[MaChu]

I have to say the WAS boards are bad(in a good way)! Its like night and day with the SOB. It won't fire, AT ALL, if there isnt a ball in the chamber, unlike the SOB where it might do that and chop. And for all you people who haven't tried it, or seen the difference between a WAS timmy and a SOB timmy then maybe you should before grilling a good product, well except for the Equalink part, my team mate wants his Stop making him wait! lol Oh and is it true your gonna stop making the boards with only a debounce setting of 1.5 instead of 1?

And Shartley, there might be some features that you will never use, but there are a few great ones that are really good, I could care less about the extra doodads and thingamajigs like the LCD angel with email, cell phone bla bla bla, the WAS board does 2 things i like:
1.Increases your rate of fire
2.helps with chopping problems by not firing at all until a ball is in the breech

Those 2 things drastically help alot, the other stuff is all fine and great, but after setting it up right, it probably wont be touched ever again. I see what your saying but what if AGD said "goes up to 30bps" on one of their advertisements? you gonna critisize AGD and say "well your never gonna get there"? I doubt it, your a AGD zealot and when a Timmy guy gets on here its like your duty to give him a hard time, cant we all just be friends?

[TransMan]

I never did liek WAS and i never really knew why i didnt liek him i just didnt because everyone else here didnt. After reading his posts today i can see where hes coming from and do believe that his boards are a good thing. I really dont think you guys are looking at the queue idea logically. Its not going to happen that often but if it does it not going to keep firing after u let go it would put out ONE extra shot. Unless you can fire at 44 bps which im sure most cant. Its not going to be dangerous because by the time ur brain tells ur finger to stop shooting the gun would already have shot that queued ball. The when clause has no validity in my opinion unless someone made a board that would save up shots so u could pul the trigger ten times and then hit a button and it shoots ten times on its own. Your agrument makes no since at all your just trying to nit pick things he says so that you can prove your point about him being evil.