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  • RRfireblade

    • Jun 2002
    • 5103

    #1

    Speed Check/ W.A.S.

    First off,there's alot of talk about the new WAS board for the Impy.I would like to state that Jim does not claim any ROF of this vid but it is pretty smoking.I hope someone here will put an actual figure on it.

    www.microcode-solutions.com/test6.avi 4+ meg

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  • Automaggin2
    Registered User
    • Sep 2002
    • 2506

    #2
    not many people like Jim Drew around here.
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    • TheBigRaguPB4L
      Proud Loser!
      • May 2001
      • 1639

      #3
      Does anyone like Jim Drew around here? How many people have actually met Jim Drew around here?
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      • Digger
        Dig In
        • Apr 2003
        • 18

        #4
        He's a cool guy. We met him at HB. I shoot an Impulse, so we spoke in depth about the technical aspects of the new WAS board. It seems to fix a lot of problems with the vision board on how it reads paint, and shortening the delay so that it fires faster (the board has no mrof).

        The Impulse Board is not designed to create the dramatic improvements seen over the stock board in Intimidators. The bounce/debounce programming is probably the most difficult the understand, and I couldnt explain correctly.

        It does enable you to shoot faster. Combined with an I Frame, I am told it can acheive higher rates of fire with less effort. Thats good enough for me.

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        • 21caballer
          Registered User
          • Jan 2001
          • 106

          #5
          i met him and talked with him for some time before i realized who he w.a.s.. nice enough guy plays hard straight up paintball. his claims might not be true, but the was board for the timmy makes a world of difference so he is on to something. I think his problem on this forum was he was unwilling to admit that his claims were,,, false. but he is not the first guy/company to make false claims, and definatly not the last.

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          • WickedAirSportz

            #6
            Good grief... what false claims? I would be happy to admit I was wrong if I was. What are you talking about here?

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            • B00bzor
              RuDe BoY
              • Mar 2003
              • 69

              #7
              well u know i want one of those...
              that must be shootin 20 bps since the vid is 20 secs long and i think he ran out of balls so...yeah bout 20 bps probably less.
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              • TheFlamingKoosh
                I'm No Longer On Fire
                • Mar 2002
                • 1710

                #8
                Only thing I've never understood is: How does a board help you increase your ROF? I can understand if your hitting limits (pulling 18bps when the board only allows 15), but what makes a gun with a different board take "less effort" to get higher ROF's?
                Hey Zero, how much did that Chipley cost ya?

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                • WickedAirSportz

                  #9
                  By having more time for the balls to drop, you increase the rate of fire. Since the pneumatic cycling is entirely computer controlled (using the eye system), the computer can adjust all of the parameters in real time to account for changes due to o-ring wear, dirt, etc. The faster the pnuematics can cycle, the easier it is to achieve a high rate of fire.

                  In some cases, we can severely reduce the dwell time necessary. For example, with a stock hardware used in the Viking (and Excalibur), a normal dwell setting of 17ms (which is 18.26ms due to a software bug) is used. With the Equalizer board in the same marker, the dwell can be set to 12ms and achieve the same velocity and better consistancy. This means that by the time you have shot 6 balls with the stock hardware, you could have shot 7 with the Equalizer... and got better efficiency and battery life.

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                  • paintslinger
                    oscar meyer weiner
                    • May 2001
                    • 679

                    #10
                    dear god not this again. can we just get a bps count on that video?
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                    • Marek
                      AGD Polka Band Leader
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 774

                      #11
                      I don't know about his claims, but I really don't care. I plan on getting a WAS board for my Classic, and have Mr. Petty do his magic. Should be more than outstanding.

                      Only thing I've never understood is: How does a board help you increase your ROF? I can understand if your hitting limits (pulling 18bps when the board only allows 15), but what makes a gun with a different board take "less effort" to get higher ROF's?
                      Don't know if this is the answer you are looking for, but there are more "windows" (possibilities to shoot) so it allows you to shoot as fast as your finger can press the trigger.
                      "Yea, well, if wishes were horses, then we'd be all eating steak."

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                      • WickedAirSportz

                        #12
                        dear god not this again. can we just get a bps count on that video?
                        Yes, please do. I am happy to say that the AOG forum has been the source of definite "proof" of the videos in the past.

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                        • TheFlamingKoosh
                          I'm No Longer On Fire
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 1710

                          #13
                          But is 15bps not 15bps? I mean, if your only limited by your finger speed with a stock board (say capped at 18) then what makes the new one "Allow" you to get more out of it?

                          If your only pulling 15bps then you'll only be pulling 15bps... regardless of board.
                          Hey Zero, how much did that Chipley cost ya?

                          Originally said by Boggerman When I got married I thought it would go down too... The insurance, not the wife.

                          FRUITCAT!!

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                          • paintslinger
                            oscar meyer weiner
                            • May 2001
                            • 679

                            #14
                            ...trigger bounce?
                            Old Edition:
                            2k2 impulse
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                            • WickedAirSportz

                              #15
                              What people don't understand is that any many cases you might actually be pulling the trigger 17 bps and the marker is only firing 15 bps due to how often the trigger is checked. This is the problem with the SOB for the Intimidator. It scans the trigger every 15ms (66.6 times per second). If a cycle time takes 45ms (typical) you are looking at the minimum time of 60ms between cycles, and if you miss the trigger input window, you have to wait another 15ms before the next trigger scan.

                              With the Equalizer, we scan the trigger 1 million times per second, including while the marker is cycling. If you happen to pull the trigger during the cycle, it is qued and processed immediately following the completion of the current cycle. Admittedly, this is an extremely rare occurance.

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