With all due respect.....

[ForgedSpeed]

Whats the big deal with the quest for super light weight markers? Since when were paintball guns(or gun/tank/hopper setups) HEAVY.

I guess I am really an outsider looking in, but really dont get why people strive to have super light guns, or why I hear it talked about so much.

I see no real performance advantage, or have noticed any, in using lightweight guns. It is not like in football where you wear pounds of protective gear, and the lighter the gear means the faster you can run. We are concering ourselves with a couple pounds.

Anyway, hope no one takes this the wrong way, please enlighten me, maybe it is beneficial in some areas.

[RoadDawg]

Lighter markers = longer play w/o the fatigue on your arm. I used to not complain about the weight of mags (pre ULE) but it wasn't til I started going ULE that I realized how much easier it is to carry and run with a lighter mag (2.6lb roughly) then say a 5.5lb mag. Less weight means less drag. By the way do you think a couple pounds isn't much look into auto racing. The lighter the vehicle the faster the take off speed. A couple pounds can make a small difference. Especially in a long day of playing.

[Vendetta]

But doesn't lighter mean more recoil?

[ForgedSpeed]

I see where you are coming from, I just find it ironic that some people playing the sport will apparently to great legnths to avoid just getting in better shape.

[ForgedSpeed]

Originally posted by Vendetta
But doesn't lighter mean more recoil?

I second this

[shartley]

[Cryer]

on a mag, recoil is not prevalent enough to notice a difference. There's almost no recoil anyways.

For me, I just like lighter markers. Its like some people go for the fancy milling, hyper bps, or crazy anno jobs in some case, just user preferance.

I heard someone say "its like a horsepower junkie trying to squeeze that extra .25 HP out of their engine..." In the long run, .25 hp gets you nothing... except .25 hp more than the other guys.

Of course, there are some benifits, i guess. I used to have an amazingly light mech mag, now I have an Emag. The lighter one felt so much more comfortable and easier to snap shoot with.

I'm actually toying with the notion of trading my emag and getting another ULE mech mag and slapping on a Hyperframe.

[mark_426]

Originally posted by Vendetta
But doesn't lighter mean more recoil?

I thought about this too, with my angel. I had it hooked to a remote with the stock barrel (lighter than my ss) and no hopper, dryfiring, I had no rise whatsoever as I was shooting it, just a slight backwards movement. When I would sweetspot my RTP I would feel it lift some, but this was with an egg (weight is further backward) or revvy, and a halo nearly elminated it(more weight forward).

I would assume, not 100% sure on it though, but when you lighten all the parts on the inside (delron, lx bolt, etc), there isn't as much weight moving around, and voila, a proportional(less weight on outside) amount of recoil.

If worst comes to worse, hold on tighter.

[krafty]

Originally posted by Cryer
I heard someone say "its like a horsepower junkie trying to squeeze that extra .25 HP out of their engine..." In the long run, .25 hp gets you nothing... except .25 hp more than the other guys

And just like those performance car guys, it sometimes costs you LOTS of money for a little bit of gain. I've seen people spend 3 grand on performance parts for a 5% power boost. Same goes for paintball. People can go crazy spending money to shave a couple of ounces off their gun. Is the weight difference between my BlackVCG-milled emag rail and an AGD ULE rail worth the extra 60 bucks? I don't think so, but some might.

[Thordic]

Its all about snapshooting to me. My ULE RT is extremely light, and I can snap-shoot with it MUCH better than I can with a heavier gun.

The more maneuverable your hands are with the gun, the faster you can snap shoot, and the faster you can go from one side of your bunker to the other.

If someone is coming to bunker you and your gun is facing the wrong way, a pound in weight may make the difference between you getting bunkered and you eliminated the guy trying to bunker you as you swing your gun around.

It makes all the difference.

[JuggaloDave]

i would much rather have a lighter gun, but it wont make the choice between guns. the lighter guns just feel better to me personly, dunno why, but they do to me. and i dont think that getting a lighter gun to avoid working out is a stupid comment. i mean what? the heavyest gun i've seen is maybe like what? 5 lbs? one of my cats comes in at 21lbs, i will loan it to you if you wanna try bench pressing her.

[gibby]

My thoughts on this...It's all about preferences. Long drops, no drops. Mechanical, electro. Heavy, light markers. It's what the player feels is comfortable for him or her.

But tell you this...I certainly don't mind the lighter marker. As for recoil...well, stick in a level 10 bolt and you shouldn't have to worry much.

[-=Squid=-]

I always thought this too (yes my setup is heavy, rail + viking + halo ) but lightweight guns like mags help A LOT. Grab a talon and go running around, then take your gun setup and try. Big difference.

[shartley]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
I always thought this too (yes my setup is heavy, rail + viking + halo ) but lightweight guns like mags help A LOT. Grab a talon and go running around, then take your gun setup and try. Big difference.

Want to borrow my Stroker?

[Brophog]

It doesn't make much difference on small weight differentials, but it certainly does on large ones.

For instance, I know a guy whose marker weights over 12 pounds fully loaded. That includes Full Hopper, Red Dot, Aftermarket Regulators, and 88/4500 Tank.

No way am I using that 12 pound marker for any length of time. It is way too cumbersome for me. He's fine with it though, because he's massive, and he doesn't tend to move much.

I on the other hand, am not massive, and tend to move around a whole lot. Why would I want to take away my natural agility/speed advantage away by using that heavy marker setup.

If we're arguing a pound difference, or even less, then I agree your not gaining anything. However, if it becomes 5 or even 10 pounds of difference, then there is a really big difference.