Deadlywind hAir trigger demo video

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  • MantisMag
    Dim Sum
    • Dec 2001
    • 1895

    #571
    Originally posted by Chowee21
    i have a question... my friend thought that if a mag shot at this rate of fire (didnt see the video) that the balls would curve cuz the gun is open bolt, y is this theory discredited
    i have a better question. why does this theory have merit? what reason would there be for balls to curve at high rates of fire? we can proceed from there.

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    • dj89
      2003 Chevy 2500HD
      • Mar 2003
      • 4275

      #572
      Originally posted by wantamag
      ship your frame out for what???? and chowee how do you think x-mags fire? tell your friend hes an idiot and to learn more than hes told.
      to get the hAir trigger
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      • wantamag
        Rec Poster
        • Mar 2003
        • 5055

        #573
        still confused? is he upgrading existing frames i think not this is a complete new setup i beleive...lmk if i missed something here

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        • dj89
          2003 Chevy 2500HD
          • Mar 2003
          • 4275

          #574
          really from what i read he is upgrading frames well then i'm glad i'm selling my logic vert frame.
          "STAY OUT OF SMART PARTS SECTIONS.
          ANYONE CAUGHT STARTING *poof* IS GONE, PERIOD.
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          • Fred
            AO Zealot
            • Feb 2002
            • 2624

            #575
            Hmm...

            For the safety, could some sort of Cam be utilized? Like flip a lever that would pull out the cam that could lock into the trigger to lock it forward away from the rod?

            it would probably work better than a standard crosspin...

            or maybe i just shouldn't be trying to design stuff in my head close to 1am when i've been staring at a 3d computer model for hours and hours...

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            • kauai_paintball
              I am skidd now
              • Mar 2004
              • 505

              #576
              [rant] Im bout ready to knock some head here, I subscribed to this thread so i could be first to know when TK posts his prototyping fest. Not so i could see a thousand replys to ignorant people who want to know if it fits in y frames. the questions dont bother me, the replys do. Think about this, If there asking questions about the product, then they have obviously not read the thread, and they obviously will not see the replys and soloutions you have posted on page 20. I secont the notion that Nicad update his first post. i have been expecting an important email, but my inbox has been full of reply notices so i missed it, and that peally p***** me off bigtime.
              If I see one more "What happened to smart parts" thread, I will kill Adam Gardner. You have been warned.

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              • aznpharm
                Registered User
                • Apr 2004
                • 18

                #577
                it seems to me that this is a mech cocker 3way, ram, and I would venture a guess of an lpr...

                the only things I haven't thought of yet is:

                -how they got the 3way pull so short. with a 3way rod as teh trigger switch, it pushes air much like a 3way.. and the other end has same polar magnets to push teh switch back to it's original position

                -they must have used some sort of version of a cocker ram but cut down to be smaller to fit in a grip frame. in the video i can actually hear a ram like thing cycling after his slow trigger pulls (the beginning of the video) if you've ever just cycled just the ram part of a cocker and listen to it, it sounds the same.

                - how they got the dang LPR so small in there.. .must be like an outkast lpr or something

                -how they get the 3way to cycle really fast... I know that eblades can cycle 40 cycles per second... but a mech 3way???


                I may be totally off base here, but that's my theory... believe it if you will... we'll see once it comes out

                something to think about... cheers

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                • MantisMag
                  Dim Sum
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 1895

                  #578
                  in reply to kauai:

                  lmao subscribing to a thread with replies in the hundreds is such a noob thing to do.

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                  • JoyInTheMadness
                    It's the Generator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 337

                    #579
                    Now he said that the trigger might be longer for safety, what if we want it that short? will the trigger be adjustable?
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                    • MantisMag
                      Dim Sum
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 1895

                      #580
                      who said that? as far as i know my post contains everything posted by nicad and agd in this thread. and i don't see it.

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                      • thecavemankevin
                        the living un-banned
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 4346

                        #581
                        Originally posted by kauai_paintball
                        [rant] Im bout ready to knock some head here, I subscribed to this thread so i could be first to know when TK posts his prototyping fest. Not so i could see a thousand replys to ignorant people who want to know if it fits in y frames. the questions dont bother me, the replys do. Think about this, If there asking questions about the product, then they have obviously not read the thread, and they obviously will not see the replys and soloutions you have posted on page 20. I secont the notion that Nicad update his first post. i have been expecting an important email, but my inbox has been full of reply notices so i missed it, and that peally p***** me off bigtime.
                        yeah, but its not their fault you subscribed to it....thats your fault. so you really shouldn't blame them for you email box getting ransacked with bs emails.


                        I scaned through, but does anyone else think that TK is staying over at Nicads?.....garage....machine shop....going on a trip (perhaps to texas) :)

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                        • Cryer
                          Paintball is over.
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 4105

                          #582
                          Originally posted by kauai_paintball
                          [rant] Im bout ready to knock some head here, I subscribed to this thread so i could be first to know when TK posts his prototyping fest. Not so i could see a thousand replys to ignorant people who want to know if it fits in y frames. the questions dont bother me, the replys do. Think about this, If there asking questions about the product, then they have obviously not read the thread, and they obviously will not see the replys and soloutions you have posted on page 20. I secont the notion that Nicad update his first post. i have been expecting an important email, but my inbox has been full of reply notices so i missed it, and that peally p***** me off bigtime.
                          just do what I do... subscribe to threads, but block the emails that say someone "someone replied to your threads"

                          Last edited by Cryer; 04-20-2004, 05:55 PM.

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                          • bertmcmahan
                            Not pop, it's all Coke
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 1960

                            #583
                            First off, to Cryer, love the new sig.





                            About the trigger- Don't think that cocker LPR's, rams, and 3-ways are the only ones out there. It's not like you can only use cocker parts of you want to make a pneumatic gun, they're just the most popular because of wide availibility. Also, he got the three way short by designing it that way. That's why this frame is so good and it hasn't been designed before- the custom three way. Yeah also it's very possible for something mech to cycle that fast. How do you think the electro ones do it? It's a mini-solenoid operating the three way (in a nutshell). The three way also doesn't even have to be the same design as the cocker one; it might be a membrane type valve with a spring return cylinder. That would make it extremely small and light, although some fixing up would be required to make it trigger-friendly. Wear would also be an issue. But anyway, remember to think outside the box of cocker stuff. Most people think that that's the basis and the best way to do it, but using $20+ cocker rams? Why? You can get normal ones for like $10 max. Yeah yeah yeah, the cocker ones are colored. Whoopee. OK sorry about all that, rant over.
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                            • warpedside671
                              Guam*<--------671
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 276

                              #584
                              Dude Cryer awsome sig man .Hook me up(shows puppy eyes)....lol
                              give me an inch..and ill take a yard...paintball is not a hobbie it's a way of life

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                              • aut911
                                Registered User
                                • Mar 2002
                                • 674

                                #585
                                very nice guys. for a while i was like " wait, no trigger pin? Magnets? hrmm."
                                after the wheels started turning for a while i finally understood. You know a slightly similar design was in the tinker section on the forums, but the main difference is that your frame rips blindingly fast. The only idea i have at the moment is slapping a roller trigger on that baby for even faster shooting!

                                I would make you one for a discount on mine if you are inerested.(rollertrigger)
                                aut

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