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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #16
    I agree with the base, if you are going to use your marker in anger you need not be playing with me. Further, if you play front and are playing a close lane you have to accept that occassionally you are going to get hit by your backplayers, it happens.

    The person who was shot here, had a part in the error I have to assume the person behind him was lanign something... even if he wasn't, hell it happens.

    Throw a fit, thats fine... whine at me thats fine to. In fact, all the team are big boys, you can whine at them to. The moment it becomes physical it's gone to far, you need not be on my team. I have to be prepared to back my teams moves on and off field at event... I don't need some hot head causing problems - and if he will do this where it doesn't matter, what about the next tournement. Do this at a tournament I am reffing and you will leave the premises... your team will play a man down if you don't all forfeit. I don't need that type of problem on my own team, it would not be tolerated.
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    • LaW
      Why play?
      • Oct 2000
      • 3124

      #17
      Originally posted by frontrunner
      is it just me or are you picking a newbie over a teammate who has been established. no saying what he did was right but if some nowbie who wanted to be on my team shot me in practice because he wanted to rambo i'd be mad too. i'm not sure what all went down but i'm not sure i could play with a team of poeple i don't trust and respect and a move like that would kill both of those. i wouldn't stand for a team member who no control of their marker or a captin who would tell me i'm sitting out and watching said newbie play. I have a 3 man team for a reason i haven't found 2 more guys how will play true team ball, as it stand i have 2 people i can trust to cover my butt and not to shoot me cause they want to0 look cool. just my input

      ps I'm a psych major and sometimes you have to look at the situation not the person we all do things we wouldn't normally do when we feel disrespected, i may not kknow what about your team but you aid the guy is not like that normally.....just 2cents

      It reads as though this is a school team that has multiple teams and it seems they shuffle players for practice possibly. THere is a good chance this new player is on the 'B' team where as the so called experienced player (I say so called because you would think someone with experience would have more control) could be playing for their 'A' team... which would make some sense. Being shot by your own teammate can be very accidental, I know I am guilty of it once or twice but that doesnt make it right.

      I think a team where there is discipline is a good team, if something or someone goes against what a team is built around there should be consequences. Thats a great way to deal with a situation and what hurts us only makes us stronger. Any punishment is a step in the right direction. Where was it said that this new player shot the guy because he wanted to look cool? Not sure where you came from that, I may have missed it???
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      • Wc Keep

        #18
        there are always more players out there. even if that means that you have to take a lesser skilled player and develop them.

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        • MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata
          Another One Bites The Dust
          • Feb 2003
          • 2246

          #19
          I would kick him off.
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          • Caffiend
            Caffinated Member
            • Jul 2003
            • 672

            #20
            Originally posted by frontrunner
            is it just me or are you picking a newbie over a teammate who has been established. no saying what he did was right but if some nowbie who wanted to be on my team shot me in practice because he wanted to rambo i'd be mad too. i'm not sure what all went down but i'm not sure i could play with a team of poeple i don't trust and respect and a move like that would kill both of those. i wouldn't stand for a team member who no control of their marker or a captin who would tell me i'm sitting out and watching said newbie play. I have a 3 man team for a reason i haven't found 2 more guys how will play true team ball, as it stand i have 2 people i can trust to cover my butt and not to shoot me cause they want to0 look cool. just my input

            ps I'm a psych major and sometimes you have to look at the situation not the person we all do things we wouldn't normally do when we feel disrespected, i may not kknow what about your team but you aid the guy is not like that normally.....just 2cents
            I think I'm misunderstanding your post, but it sounds like you're saying the experienced guy shouldn't be punished for getting shot by a teammate, he's not. He's being punished shooting BACK. and to make matters worse, it was OUTSIDE the game of paintball (If I'm reading it right.) I think he should be benched or booted. You can't let it slide. It sucks making examples of people, but sometimes you have to. If you don't, what will you do when/if it happens again? You can't bench/boot that person because you started a trend of saying "It's ok to do that" (by not saying anything). Frontrunner is right, you have to look at the situation, not the person. That type of behavior can't be tolerated, you have to do something- fined, benched, booted, pod person, something. Best of luck, being captian is tough sometimes.
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            • Lee
              Team Trigger Happy
              • Nov 2002
              • 2395

              #21
              he needs to go. no questions asked. no circumstance makes that behavior tolerable.
              harsh, but it sends a message to more people than just the guilty party.

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              • personman

                #22
                If I saw one of my team mates doing that to another team mate I would not only yell my *** off at him and give him a 'little' talk, I would toss him off the team and not let him back on.

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                • Steelrat
                  I meant to...uh, nevermind
                  • May 2003
                  • 5375

                  #23
                  Suspending him is letting him get off easy. Paintball guns arent toys. He intentionally tried to injure the less experienced player for an honest mistake. What is going to happen the next time he loses his temper? Safety ALWAYS comes ahead of concerns about how well the team will manage without him. And you don't need that kind of unprofessional and unsportsmanlike conduct on your team.


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                  • felony
                    Awesome
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 1216

                    #24
                    it is a def tough call and i thank you all for your responses.

                    it was not taken lightly at practice as it was basically canceled after the incident.

                    the retaliation took place right as they were walking of the field (better then off the field i assume).

                    the two players spoke and both apologized to eachother for the accident and the assualt, they even rode home together... and the night before were getting along fine. i do agree that if ones temper is constantly hot on the field, its not a good thing, its just that i have never seen him act like this before.

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                    • Glickman
                      *Insert Witty Phrase*
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 2673

                      #25
                      you can always bottle up problems for another day,

                      those who are thinking that hes choosing a "newbie" over a experianced player obviously dont understand teh safety risks being taken if he is to remain on the team. hes already shown he cant control his anger, so having him on the team will risk the other players safety, and anyone on that team, as well as the reputation of the team, and team players.

                      sometimes you have to make that hard decision, but dont do it for experiance, because that can always be gained, but good, reliable friends are hard to find.


                      Originally Posted by frontrunner
                      is it just me or are you picking a newbie over a teammate who has been established. no saying what he did was right but if some nowbie who wanted to be on my team shot me in practice because he wanted to rambo i'd be mad too.



                      sure, ive had this happen to me numerous times, ive thought about shooting him back too, but have never seriously considered it.

                      its that split second when u decide whether or not to do it shows your real trust worthyness, and reliability.


                      i am telling you truthfully, do whats best in the mind for safety, let him go, you can always find new teamates, and the fact that he did it shows he cant control his anger, but its totally your descresion.

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                      • Carbon
                        Word!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1589

                        #26
                        The chemistry seems to be off to begin with. He is a liability, he should be gone.

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                        • 50 cal
                          The evil voices win today
                          • Nov 2000
                          • 960

                          #27
                          Get rid of the hothead. He is a huge liability to your team.

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                          • -=Squid=-

                            #28
                            Let him keep playing.

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                            • Glickman
                              *Insert Witty Phrase*
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 2673

                              #29
                              how about some stuff to back ur idea up squid?

                              what good is
                              "buy it"
                              or
                              "let him play"

                              without some reason.....

                              not to mention your view is a minority and needs to be backed up

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                              • -=Squid=-

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Glickman
                                how about some stuff to back ur idea up squid?

                                what good is
                                "buy it"
                                or
                                "let him play"

                                without some reason.....

                                not to mention your view is a minority and needs to be backed up
                                Why?

                                I don't see why I should have to post anything more than that...

                                No real reason... You want to win right? Unless he is just a dick, let him play.

                                Everyone screws up.

                                Whatever.

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