Official Deadlywind hAir trigger update

[Conversekidz]

There you go ----> PTP's Patent (or one of them).

Take those techincal drawings and call me when you get one built.

can't get the images to work :-\

[Glickman]

can't get the images to work :-\

me neither, seems like ther are in quicktime format?

[Conversekidz]

got it to work, had to download a plug in. I have a lot of reading to do on that now, but from the quick skim of it its talking about using magnets in a trigger....so does that mean PTP can ban all companies from using magnets in triggers.

[Automaggot68]

got it to work, had to download a plug in. I have a lot of reading to do on that now, but from the quick skim of it its talking about using magnets in a trigger....so does that mean PTP can ban all companies from using magnets in triggers.

God, you dont know a damn thing about anything, do you?

[Conversekidz]

God, you dont know a damn thing about anything, do you?

omg, don't you sense sarcasim.

[CoolHand]

i guess youre having some fun giving them leads on this holy grail quest this si turning into

Not really.

I was trying to politely point out the ignorance that is running rampant in this thread (and oh so many others). Namely that given the patent document, any fool could turn out a working pneu frame in a matter of hours.

Its rubbish. Plain and simple.

Most of the people begging for the drawings would still be trying to get the thing to work long after the year wait they expect out of PTP has come and gone. Not to mention that they would have spent a significant amount of money on such an undertaking (think multiples of how much the whole marker it's destined for is worth).

And people seem to think that $300 is too much for the frame itself. Its absolute insanity to think that you would build one yourself for even three times that number (unless you own a machine shop of your own, and have days worth of free time at your disposal).

I'm just calling a spade a spade.

Or in this case a joker . . . . . .

[CoolHand]

omg, don't you sense sarcasim.

Yeah Derek! You big doodie head!

He even used three (3) rolly laughing guys ( ) to help you get it.

Jeez . . .

[ScatterPlot]

So without me doing a lot of reading, is this patent for just magnets assisting a trigger? And I couldn't get the pics to work either, and my quicktime says that I already have the plugin . Anyone want to post up the pics on jayloo or something? I actually might like to make me one of these suckers. I'll get to reading on it later, but it's late now and I'm not in the mood for too much thinking.

[CoolHand]

So without me doing a lot of reading, is this patent for just magnets assisting a trigger? And I couldn't get the pics to work either, and my quicktime says that I already have the plugin . Anyone want to post up the pics on jayloo or something? I actually might like to make me one of these suckers. I'll get to reading on it later, but it's late now and I'm not in the mood for too much thinking.

You need a TIFF viewer, not Quicktime (why Windows thinks they are QT is beyond me).

When you read the patent, and see the drawings, you will understand why I posted the link in jest . . . . . . .

[Muzikman]

Those drawing as about as useful as a hole in the head.

I do love the broad "idea" this patent covers.

[rabidchihauhau]

N.c.

[Gunga]

And I couldn't get the pics to work either, and my quicktime says that I already have the plugin . Anyone want to post up the pics on jayloo or something? I actually might like to make me one of these suckers. I'll get to reading on it later, but it's late now and I'm not in the mood for too much thinking.

Install one of these plugins to view the patent images. You'll probably also have to adjust QuickTime's plug in/MIME settings via your QT control panel.

[athomas]

The only way a patent holder could "seize" copies of the item is if they could demonstrate that the copies are intended for distribution. That includes giving them away free.

Exactly.

The amount of items built would be taken into consideration. Any more than deemed to be able to be used by the builder would be considered to be built for distribution.

As i understand it, when you do that the patent holder incures damages. The people you gave it to possibly would have purchased it had you not given it to them.

I agree with you. I'm not sure on this one either, but I think that even an item given away for $0 is considered a distribution item that could have been purchased from the patent protected manufacturer.

[ScatterPlot]

Those drawing as about as useful as a hole in the head.

I have almost NO idea of what those pics are trying to convey.

[Lohman446]

What people don't seem to realize about this - which I have only glanced at the drawings and going off others, who know what there talkign about in this thread, words is that you are not going to make one at home.

Even if someone knowledgeable were to write step by step instructions in layman terms it would be very expensive to find someone with the machining capabilities to make one to the tolerances needed. And thats with good instructions so it takes no mechanical intuition about how to make it work, assuming everything goes as instructions, and various other factors that won't happen.

The fact of the matter is, maching the first of anything is almost always more expensive than machining the next few dozen, the cost of setting machines, training operators, screwing one up, etc.

There are a few people on these boards who might be able to make working homemade versions... very few