AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
WOW a plastic gun what a novel idea... wow.. nobody has ever tryed that before.. oh wait yes they did it was called a Splatmaster from NSG. and the ever popular Splatmaster Rapide... Wow.. SP just comes up with some of the greatest ideas..
The difference is that the splatmaster and rapid were about a third the price of a Ion, and about a .001th of the features, accuracy or ROF.
SP has a great idea ths time, I don't care about the plastic stuff, fact is it's a sub 300 dollar spool valve marker. The concept is amazing, all it has to do is work and it'll be a winner.
dave
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The difference is that the splatmaster and rapid were about a third the price of a Ion, and about a .001th of the features, accuracy or ROF.
SP has a great idea ths time, I don't care about the plastic stuff, fact is it's a sub 300 dollar spool valve marker. The concept is amazing, all it has to do is work and it'll be a winner.
dave
There is the key statement.. and being from SP I see that being a problem.
Ferrari and thier Enzo is a prime example of prestige marketing........... it works.
No it doesn't. If Ferrari only sold Enzo's they'd go bust. It's the cheap cars that finance the racing and keep the highend car lines going.
But, if you asked me whether I'd rather own Fiat or Ferrari, I'd choose Fiat. You'd be brain dead to choose Ferrari.
Why? FIAT OWNS Ferrari! And heck, GM owns a good chunk of FIAT.
And while Ferrari doesn't do badly, but then more money is made on merchandising than car sales, other "prestige" brands are HUGE money losers.
And Porche? Hardly the most profitable arm of the AUDI-VW conglomerate.
And hmm... Another "low-end" companies own "pretige" names and none the other way round. Ford owns Jaguar, and while the company is now named Daimler-Chrysler it was Chrysler that bought Daimler-Benz.
How many more real-world examples does everyone need to see that the path to success is from the bottom?
That's not to say you can't make a decent living selling to an upscale niche.
Jesus, that is one good deal...
IF I had some extra cash, I'd sell the defiant I just bought (havent even received it yet), and buy one of those.
The black one isn't that bad looking, and it looks to have almost the same performance of a shocker.
Love SP or not, They just made a tsunami in the industry. Every other company is going to have to keep up or loose $$$.
AGREED! SP has certainly recognized that selling truck loads of less expensive markers is preferrable to selling a select number of high end markers. For all you non-business guys out there, it's the age old business model of volume-vs-mark up.
Sorry guys.....but there's not that many components to ANY of the paintball markers sold today to justify $1400+ for a marker.....there just isn't.....
Yes, it's true that SP acted like douches. But so has WorrGames and WDP. So had NPS. Do you boycott all of their products as well?
Jacob
He was replying to someone else's comment that all it has to do is work & it'll be a winner. Nothing about SP lawsuits or such. SP doesn't have the greatest rep for brand new guns working too good at first.
If you like it or you don't, Smart Parts is amazingly on the ball. They are going to sell like hot cakes. What a great deal on tournament level marker for the limited budget.
You get what you pay for. It sounds interesting, but if it truly performed like a high end gun then SP wouldnt be able to sell shockers and nerves, and they'd end up screwing themselves. I expect performance on par with the low end ICD guns. I certainly don't expect anything innovative.
What IS a great idea is the polymer body. They can come out with diffferent styles and colors, and it allows customization for playes who cant afford milled aluminum and anodization. It also lets you abuse it, yet keep it looking good by replacing the body.
Is it just me, or does the pace of development in the industry seem to be increasing?
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