Ions new Competition

[VAballer]

PSI, look you are reading too much into this. yes its crap the ion comes with ramping standard, but it isnt to be used on rec fields, its For psp stuff only. and for showing yor friends, look at me, im an attention whore.

Atleast rebound is easy to test for.

I doubt this will come with ramping stock, no matrix does, and i dont think dye will start.

guns are finally costing what they should. you should be happy. more people getting into the sport, and mor epeople becomming competitive faster, because they have markers that can compete.

calm down

I concur...chill out people.

[Lohman446]

Someone else raised the point - Dye has never tried to be an economy brand, and this appears to have features the proto does not. Maybe there trying to borrow off the Glock image, and the weight savings of composites, and go higher end

[Miscue]

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[MedicDVG]

Not CHEAP at all.. looks like this is going to be a limited edition Matrix with the composite body. Pre-orders are popping up over the net at $1699.... that aint cheap.

http://www.firstcallpaintball.com/products/2226.html

[bull]

The funny thing is that I have heard every argument, about the how cheaply the ion is made and its a plastic gun, 15 years ago. Except it was not the ion they were talking about, it was the Glock. Now glock is known as one of the best, most reliable, most rugged guns around. HHHHMMMMM

[jewie27]

Please explain how you compare a company operating in a capitalistic society to the Nazi third reich? I'm curious.

There's a difference between Capitalism and a Monopoly. You tell me what SP is doing in the electro market...





Let's see...

Eclipse has to pay a fee for every E-Bladed 'cocker sold...

AKA was put outta business, which elminated a competitor for Smart Parts...

They tried to sue WGP....

SP=Greed

Don't get me wrong here, they make great products. From their AA barrels to the Shocker, I like them all.

[MonsterMag]

Dye ran out of numbers so they went to letters

[teufelhunden]

There's a difference between Capitalism and a Monopoly. You tell me what SP is doing in the electro market...





Let's see...

Eclipse has to pay a fee for every E-Bladed 'cocker sold...

AKA was put outta business, which elminated a competitor for Smart Parts...

They tried to sue WGP....

SP=Greed

Don't get me wrong here, they make great products. From their AA barrels to the Shocker, I like them all.

So, Nazis=monopolies?

And for the record, SP is nowhere near monopolizing the market. Generally, companies begin to get concerned at about 60% market share. No way SP is near that.

[NigelF]

So, Nazis=monopolies?

And for the record, SP is nowhere near monopolizing the market. Generally, companies begin to get concerned at about 60% market share. No way SP is near that.

You can call it what you will, I'm not interested. Smart Parts made a buisness move that it seems to have benefited from. However, in my eyes it was not in the spirit of advancing the sport. And certainly not in the spirit of good will or cooperation. I understand that they are running a buisness, but all the same, I will not be purchasing anything from Smart Parts. They made their choice and I made mine. If you're indifferent, or like SP, I dont mind, thats your choice. Flame me for it if you want, but I will not support them.


Nigel F

[JaredMeier]

I think everyone is entitled to their own opinions on the matter.

[alouba]

ummm
that gun is gonna cost 1700

http://www.firstcallpaintball.com/products/2226.html

but it might be a scam....might

[teufelhunden]

You can call it what you will, I'm not interested. Smart Parts made a buisness move that it seems to have benefited from. However, in my eyes it was not in the spirit of advancing the sport. And certainly not in the spirit of good will or cooperation. I understand that they are running a buisness, but all the same, I will not be purchasing anything from Smart Parts. They made their choice and I made mine. If you're indifferent, or like SP, I dont mind, thats your choice. Flame me for it if you want, but I will not support them.


Nigel F

At least you aren't running around calling SP Nazis and waving an SP->Swastika avatar.

And for the record, business moves generally aren't in then spirit of helping other people out

[JaredMeier]

ummm
that gun is gonna cost 1700

http://www.firstcallpaintball.com/products/2226.html

but it might be a scam....might

it also came out the EXACT night (tonight) that all this DMC talk erupted on the forums. and it "also" has the same creased magazine ad image that has been floating around. but i know nothing about firstcallpaintball, so I have no idea. but I doubt it is the real deal.

[SpecialBlend2786]

Dye better watch out so they don't get sued by the Nazis.(SP) What if they claim they were the first to come out with a low cost - high performance marker. LOL

not gonna happen. SP and Dye are buddies, remember?

Dye owns the spool valve and matrix platforms I believe, they let SP use the spool valve and SP doesn't sue them and everyone is happy or something...

sculpted integrated on/off(proto also doesnt even have),

yeah, first thing i saw that would prove that the marker is NOT a lower end model

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i hate you

[Enemy]

yeah dye and cheap!! thats a good one and thanks for the vid miscue those guys were throwing ropes!!