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[Lohman446]

I have heard reports of some agencies giving up the Glock - but I had not heard it being do to a ruggedness issue nor do I have those reports in front of me.

Put a real convenional safety on the Glock and it would be the next pistol I bought - until that point I simply will not buy one. I don't care, I've heard all the arguments about how great the Glock system is, but unless I have a trigger or hammer block safety I'm not buying one.

There an awesome gun, rugged, dependable, and accurate enough for a self defense pistol. I like the idea of polymer, less maintenance etc - I just cannot get over no external safety.

[matt-o]

i really doubt that PDs would drop the glock due to ruggedness issues, i mean the police dont really push the limits of the gun like others might. the gun isnt going to be used very often, if at all, and they arent crawling around the desert or the jungle or anything.

[matt-o]

I heard the same. But either way it looks sweet. I really got sell my nerve before I can't......hate it sooo freaking much...

you couldnt sell nerves used when they first came out

[ApexAZ]

Please explain how you compare a company operating in a capitalistic society to the Nazi third reich? I'm curious.

It's just a figure of speech :)

Anyways, if it's made with plastic, I don't see how it could be more expensive then a dm5.

[ApexAZ]

Hmm, I just read Titanium/Aluminum. Why call it a composite instead of an alloy?

[nt2004]

Hmm, I just read Titanium/Aluminum. Why call it a composite instead of an alloy?

composite sounds cooler?

[Glickman]

then it would be the DMA

then this would happen..

"hey john, you see the new DMA? its awsome!"

not knowing what it is

"oh yea, im gonna buy one when i get home"

john goes home to google "dma" and finds that it stand for the direct marketing association. not wanting to be left out, he orders a telemarketing package.

while telemarketing, he sneezes, and happends to be talking to the president of Kleenex, Hubert Humphery. he says he must come down and do a sneezing commercial.

while doing the commercial he finds a snickers bar. he sees noone near, so he eats it. not knowing its the bar of the famous xena, warrior princess.

she takes him outside, and beats the crap out of him.



dont worry mods, pinky-swear its the only dumb post today


buy a dye matrix alloy, get beat yp by xena, warrior princess.

[JimmyBeam]

just thought I would post a pic of my "plastic" gun



>10 cases and no chops

[Mechanic79]

For some reason Dye and Cheap don't go together in my mind.

Perhaps not, but dye and brasseagle go together in my mind!

[hgryhgryhipo04]

The DMC is not cheap...AT ALL! It is on preorder for 1700$!

[bull]

The glock does have a trigger/hammer safety, it does not have a external safety. The trigger and hammer safety have been tradionaly to stop a weapon from firing that has been dropped. You can throw a glock and it will not go off. My problem is that it you are diarmed of your weapon, and all those macho wannabes that say ths should never happen - don't respond, it takes a non-gun person 1.7 second to fire it where a gun with a external safety takes 19 seconds. The next is a trigger disconnect that disables the trigger if the magazine is removed. Now this used to be standard until someone said how about if Iam reloading, I have one in the chamber, but somebody is charging so I can't fire. I have never heard of this happening in LE. I do know of reports where some one has been about to lose his firearm in a fight and ejected the mag, making it temporarly unable to fire, giving the gun up and going to secondary or some other move, but they saved their life. I have been in a fight and felt the person grab my sidearm, talk about a pucker factor. Luckly I was able to stop the person. Just becuase you have a gun does not always meean you can use it.

[Lohman446]

My problem is that it you are diarmed of your weapon, and all those macho wannabes that say ths should never happen - don't respond, it takes a non-gun person 1.7 second to fire it where a gun with a external safety takes 19 seconds. .

Funny point - its the reason I carry my Taurus with the safety on and the chamber emtpy... by the time somone figures out the safety is on, then figures out the gun is empty, I should have plenty of time to do sometning about it. Granted, should I ever have to use it it might take me an extra second.. but its how I practice too

[bull]

To me a Glock with a trigger disconnect is almost perfect, a glock with a trigger disconnect and a 1911 style safety is the perfect sidearm. There is a company that installs a Glock approved safety, but I can't install it on my departmental weapon.

[SlartyBartFast]

You can throw a glock and it will not go off.

It just breaks.

That's why it failed the FBI tests.

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/upgrade-faq.html#ad

In the DEA tests the slide came off the frame and the pistol discharged.

I know, there was an "upgrade". But reading that website makes you think twice about handling a Glock.

[CrimsonGhost]

Lol, Yeah maybe 13 years ago!!! Lol, I carry my G 35 EVERY DAY and have NEVER had an issue with it.( Ive bounced it, kicked it and played "floor hocky" with it on accident,loaded and chambered) So the Glock comment is worthless (the breaking part) esp based on 13 year old info..if we can use 13 year old info( or info thats old anyway)...Mags will be blenders and break paint and the bolt would cut your finger off(cough cough)...and I know thats not the case.