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  • hitech
    Not a shedder of vortices
    • Nov 2001
    • 4775

    #46
    Originally posted by Lohman446
    If TK is the only one to do testing and research these other companies got extremely lucky on stumbling onto the various systems we have now with no testing or research. Just think about it.

    Trial and error works also. I'm completley sure that I would design and build a well functioning marker given the same resources "these other companies" have. And with no research. The only testing would be to fire it and see if it works.


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    • Lohman446
      Useful posts: 7
      • Jun 2003
      • 9315

      #47
      Originally posted by hitech
      Trial and error works also. I'm completley sure that I would design and build a well functioning marker given the same resources "these other companies" have. And with no research. The only testing would be to fire it and see if it works.

      Isn't that research of its own? Maybe putting them to market and then seeing if they work was not good research... but I am sure that of the major companies at least one has scrapped at least one design somewhere... I would think... maybe
      "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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      • hitech
        Not a shedder of vortices
        • Nov 2001
        • 4775

        #48
        I believe there is one thing in all that crap that is true. Anyone else?


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        • yakitori

          #49
          Originally posted by hitech
          I believe there is one thing in all that crap that is true. Anyone else?
          Stock marker barrels are disappointing at best, usually nothing more than an aluminum tube with threading at one end

          thats it. the only truth in the SP hype.

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          • Lohman446
            Useful posts: 7
            • Jun 2003
            • 9315

            #50
            Originally posted by yakitori
            Paintball barrels in general are disappointing at best, usually nothing more than an aluminum tube with threading at one end

            thats it. the only truth in the SP hype.
            Edited for accuracy

            But does proving they are good at hype disprove the idea that they do research? I don't think so
            "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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            • shartley
              paintball player
              • Mar 2001
              • 9169

              #51
              Originally posted by hitech
              I believe there is one thing in all that crap that is true. Anyone else?

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              • yakitori

                #52
                Originally posted by Lohman446
                Edited for accuracy

                But does proving they are good at hype disprove the idea that they do research? I don't think so
                I dunno, I wasnt trying to make that correlation, you did. I just copied the only accurate statement in their ad, since hitech said there was only one accurate statement. I went and found it.



                They may have done research, but does that mean they disclosed the ACTUAL results, or just selected what they wanted to make the product sell.

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                • shartley
                  paintball player
                  • Mar 2001
                  • 9169

                  #53
                  Originally posted by yakitori
                  Stock marker barrels are disappointing at best, usually nothing more than an aluminum tube with threading at one end

                  thats it. the only truth in the SP hype.

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                  • yakitori

                    #54
                    thats why they didnt say... ALL stock marker barrels. By just saying stock marker barrels, it implies certain stock marker barrels.

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                    • yakitori

                      #55
                      I would just like to point out that we are just having fun now, since the last 8 posts or so are only like one sentence long. Mostly they are joshy comments. Just something I noted. .

                      Kinda like this post by me.

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                      • shartley
                        paintball player
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 9169

                        #56
                        Originally posted by yakitori
                        thats why they didnt say... ALL stock marker barrels. By just saying stock marker barrels, it implies certain stock marker barrels.

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                        • yakitori

                          #57
                          could it be argued then that the end of their sentence says, a tube of aluminum w/ threading at one end, that it doesnt apply to the stock AGD barrel? Or was your stock barrel the one for the RT pro? If it is twistlock, that wouldnt have threads. :P. Im j/k dude.

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                          • hitech
                            Not a shedder of vortices
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 4775

                            #58
                            "Our stepped bore design also... assists in velocity consistency."

                            I believe that this is actually true.


                            AGD: "Once in a while, there comes a product that revolutionizes the way the game is played. [LvL 10] Um...no I don't think it will
                            I think that it pushed others to develop a method to attempt to match level 10. Generally this has been accomplished via eyes in elecros, but I think that the level 10 greatly accelerated that process. And I know that the level 10 forever changed the way I play.


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                            • shartley
                              paintball player
                              • Mar 2001
                              • 9169

                              #59
                              Originally posted by hitech
                              "Our stepped bore design also... assists in velocity consistency."

                              I believe that this is actually true.



                              I think that it pushed others to develop a method to attempt to match level 10. Generally this has been accomplished via eyes in elecros, but I think that the level 10 greatly accelerated that process. And I know that the level 10 forever changed the way I play.

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                              CLICK HERE to Check out our PDU SERIES GEAR!


                              its more like a paper cut that has primadonna's yelling murder... - Glickman

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                              • hitech
                                Not a shedder of vortices
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 4775

                                #60
                                Originally posted by shartley
                                Did THEY do it because AGD was a threat? LOL Not likely.
                                They didn't necessarily think of AGD as a threat. However, they didn't need to think of AGD as a threat to believe that they needed to come up with an anti-chop system. AGD making the level 10 for 'mags could have pushed (and I still believe did push) other companies into making their "systems". As long as you can point to numerous others that you are better than (with an important feature) your okay. When those you are pointing at are now better than you in regards to that feature, you have to change.

                                I don't think it is a coincidence that after the level 10 was released anti-chop systems became a must have feature. But we don't have to agree.


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