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  • RRfireblade

    • Jun 2002
    • 5103

    #61
    Originally posted by hitech
    I don't think it is a coincidence that after the level 10 was released anti-chop systems became a must have feature. But we don't have to agree.
    Only if you somehow were to believe that the L10 came well before the BKO/B2K SP mod, Jam bolts, Electronic ACEs, Genesis Autococker system, etc,etc.

    Which of course it didn't.
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    • shartley
      paintball player
      • Mar 2001
      • 9169

      #62
      Originally posted by RRfireblade
      Only if you somehow were to believe that the L10 came well before the BKO/B2K SP mod, Jam bolts, Electronic ACEs, Genesis Autococker system, etc,etc.

      Which of course it didn't.
      What he said...

      But it's all good.

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      • hitech
        Not a shedder of vortices
        • Nov 2001
        • 4775

        #63
        Originally posted by RRfireblade
        Only if you somehow were to believe that the L10 came well before the BKO/B2K SP mod, Jam bolts, Electronic ACEs, Genesis Autococker system, etc,etc.

        Which of course it didn't.


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        • shartley
          paintball player
          • Mar 2001
          • 9169

          #64

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          • RRfireblade

            • Jun 2002
            • 5103

            #65
            Or....

            Was AGD just following everyone 'elses' lead on anti-chop systems since until then, they had none at all while more than just a few other manufactureres already had them or had them in the works.

            I do aggree on that. Just playin'.
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            • KRAKMT
              Registered User
              • Sep 2003
              • 196

              #66
              A hype that i have never forgotten was from angel- it was on their website around 1998-99ish. They claimed that the Angel was a closed bolt. I emailed them and asked them how so and they said it was because of superior circuit timing.
              People have mentioned a fine line companies walk- over-the-top claims may alienate as many people as attract
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              It is better that people think your a dumb@$$ then for you to open your mouth and confirm it.

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              • ApexAZ
                Registered User
                • Feb 2005
                • 161

                #67
                This is a quote from another Ion vs. Mag thread which I believe outlines what hype is nicely:

                MAgs.

                Top 10 reasons why YOU should have an RT Pro Automag.


                1. 26 balls per second, without shoot down. 34+capable.

                2. Very lightweight. A full ULE setup weighs in at under 2.7 pounds.

                3. Very good looking.

                4. Single tube design.

                5. Rugged Design. Submerge it in water, shake it around, pull it out, and FIRE!

                6. Impossible to chop (if not tuned right)

                7. Unique mechanisms known only to AGD (LX antichop bolt for example).

                8. AGD and its dealers has some of the best customer support (aka no business nazis).

                9. Mechanical marker that reach speeds of reason 1.

                10. You can be unique. Get off the bandwagon, and GET A MAG NOW!


                I think the ion has like 2 or 3 of those.
                How many people actually consistantly achieve 25+ bps with their mech mags? See, to me this is misleading. Sure, the gun can reach those speeds. How easily though? You'd have to fan and even then, how easy is it to reach 25 bps? How easy is it to maintain any accuracy while fanning at those speeds? Hell, even electro's can't reach those speeds w/out ramping.

                Impossible to chop. Hmm. I haven't chopped yet, but I know people who have had their mags for years and known them to chop occasionally. You can't really do anything about super brittle paint at times. I understand what he is saying, but impossible means impossible.

                Anyways, don't get me wrong, I like automags a lot. I just thought this presented a good example of hype :)

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                • ApexAZ
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 161

                  #68
                  Originally posted by RogueFactor
                  AGD isnt misleading. Here is how they advertise it:



                  This isnt hype. This is AGD advertising their recharge rate, which in turn allows for the possibility of 26 bps without shootdown(and they even go so far as to explicity state "faster than anyone can pull the trigger!)

                  If it doesnt recharge fast enough, it doesnt matter how many shots per second can be achieved.
                  Yes, but see how this person misconstrued it? Perhaps because he read that little recharge rate factoid and all he saw was 26 bps... He then turns around and makes it seem like you can shoot it at 26+ bps.

                  Hype isn't only present in advertising. It's also propelled by word of mouth.

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                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #69
                    Originally posted by RogueFactor
                    AGD isnt misleading. Here is how they advertise it:



                    This isnt hype. This is AGD advertising their recharge rate, which in turn allows for the possibility of 26 bps without shootdown(and they even go so far as to explicity state "faster than anyone can pull the trigger!)

                    If it doesnt recharge fast enough, it doesnt matter how many shots per second can be achieved.

                    You are right that it is not explicity misleading, as compared to say a SP ad. However, it is designed to get people to think of 26BPS and to spin "hype" off of that. Maybe not designed.. perhaps its unintentional, but it does have that result.
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