Mag or Ion

[yakitori]

It's not plastic, it's a composite. Which shares some molecular similarities with plastic. Saying the Ion shell is plastic is like saying the Mazda RX7 is a Porsche.

no, he said the whole gun was plastic. He doesnt know the difference between powdercoated aluminum and plastic.

[WARPED1]

Ah, I see. Yeah, only the outer interchangeable sleeve and stock trigger are polymer. Strange is working on an aluminum quick change body. It's not done in the milling. You unscrew the endcap, loosen a bolt and the internals slide out the back to be lubed/cleaned. Strangler feedneck included.

[JimmyBeam]

there needs to be a Tac One body made for the Ion

[WARPED1]

there needs to be a Tac One body made for the Ion

That would look cool for the scenario ballers out there! :) Not my cup of tea, but would look great for those that really like the TAC. I'd like to see an XMag type Ion body.

[Pyroboy597]

Get the Ion:

My ion is quieter than almost any other high end gun... perfect for your sneaking up on people, mags are loud.
MY ion weighs less than two pounds.. mags weigh like 2.5 (which is a lot)

Ions are tough... when there is something wrong.. most stores can fix it while many people are new to mags.

ion is cheaper. Mags need to be upgraded.

ion is fast.. in case you ever go into speedball

yea... its better than a mag.

[WARPED1]

Get the Ion:

My ion is quieter than almost any other high end gun... perfect for your sneaking up on people, mags are loud.
MY ion weighs less than two pounds.. mags weigh like 2.5 (which is a lot)

Ions are tough... when there is something wrong.. most stores can fix it while many people are new to mags.

ion is cheaper. Mags need to be upgraded.

ion is fast.. in case you ever go into speedball

yea... its better than a mag.

I agree. I like mags, I've owned only 4 including an Emag. They are loud, I like them for rec games, the Ion is tourney ready out of the box. It doesn't need upgrades, but I'd get a Freak or other kit, and a NDZ or CP trigger. All you need for loader is like an eVLution 2 really, people are getting HALO B's and loving them though on the Ion. I'm looking for a eVLution now, I only have a Reloader A.

[slade]

there needs to be a Tac One body made for the Ion

yay, making it easier for people to confuse smart parts guns with mags that were out before the sp guns! i dont think a tac one style shell would sell well though because the ion is more of a hype speedball gun, not many scenario people would buy them. some would, but not many, not enough to make it all that profitable.

thats a pretty nice body from strange, but i think deadlywind could (and will, maybe has) do better.

oh yeah, is the ion frame composite?

and i still REALLY hate the ion reg/foregrip.

[yakitori]

yay, making it easier for people to confuse smart parts guns with mags that were out before the sp guns! i dont think a tac one style shell would sell well though because the ion is more of a hype speedball gun, not many scenario people would buy them. some would, but not many, not enough to make it all that profitable.

thats a pretty nice body from strange, but i think deadlywind could (and will, maybe has) do better.

oh yeah, is the ion frame composite?

and i still REALLY hate the ion reg/foregrip.

no the frame is not composite. I said that on page two, but this long thread, so I dont expect everyone to read it all.

The Ion has an aluminum body, grip frame, reg (covered w/ rubber), barrel, feedneck. The only things that are composite on the gun are the sleeve body (shell is kinda like a cellphone cover), the trigger, and the bolt. Everything else is aluminum w/ powdercoat. Everyone thinks the whole gun is plastic, which is not true.

Next time I take it apart and lube, Ill take pics and post them.

[mark_1791]

Okay all, I've got some Ion questions for you!

Trigger:
Which triggers are made for the Ion? Is it just CP and NDZ? Are there others? Which is best? What are they like?

Reg:
Is it just a normal ASA twist-off reg? So can I just replace it with another reg, I.E. CP, etc.?

Barrel:
What threading is it? Shocker?

Feedneck:
How are they replaced? Is it threaded? What kind of threading? Are there special Ion feednecks? What kind of feednecks are there?

Air:
I can run it on a HP tank, right? Does it really matter that much to get a LP tank?

I'm now liking what I hear about the Ion, but I would DEFINITLY want to upgrade it. Screw "out of the box" crap, I want a good reg!

EDIT: Are they compareable to Shockers?

[Glickman]

there needs to be a Tac One body made for the Ion

HINT HINT

theres gonna be an awsome karta body for it soon, another +1 to getting it.

nah, more like a +34

[mark_1791]

Hrmm...I wonder how much the Ion Karta will cost...

[Lohman446]

Just a note on input pressure. I left teh reg on there (thinking about gutting it though) and have the max-flo set at abuot 700lbs input to it

[yakitori]

actually the stock reg is not all that bad. That would not be the first thing I get for a stock Ion. I would start w/ the barrel. Then maybe a QEV which will allow you to lower your dwell significantly and allow a smoother operation, and better efficiency. Then I would prolly go w/ a trigger.

There are CP, FBM delrin, THEBETTERONE, NDZ triggers, and maybe a couple more.

Then if you feel it is necessary, you can get a reg.

Impulse threads on barrel and feedneck
You can use a HP tank, in fact they recommend it.

clippard QEV and quick disconnect from www.airsoldier.com for 15 bucks.

remove the front banjo fitting, put teflon tape on the QEV, install QEV (but dont try to screw all the way in, stop when it is in far enough and lines up w/ the hoses. Lower the dwell on the board to about 10 blinks, which translates to a dwell of 5.5ms. Lower your inline pressure and go rechrono. Mines running at 120psi and a dwell of 5.5ms.

You can take the stock trigger out, remove the magnet, heat it w/ a lighter for a couple seconds on each side, reinstall, check the tension, repeat until you get the trigger pull light as you want it. Heating weakens the magnet and lightens the pull. It helps tremendously.

[WARPED1]

Okay all, I've got some Ion questions for you!

Trigger:
Which triggers are made for the Ion? Is it just CP and NDZ? Are there others? Which is best? What are they like?CP and NDZ are it as far as I know

Reg:
Is it just a normal ASA twist-off reg? So can I just replace it with another reg, I.E. CP, etc.?yes

Barrel:
What threading is it? Shocker?Impulse

Feedneck:
How are they replaced? Is it threaded? What kind of threading? Are there special Ion feednecks? What kind of feednecks are there?Impulse thread, replaced like normal.

Air:
I can run it on a HP tank, right? Does it really matter that much to get a LP tank?SP recommends HP tank

I'm now liking what I hear about the Ion, but I would DEFINITLY want to upgrade it. Screw "out of the box" crap, I want a good reg!regs fine, I'm getting +/- 4FPS or so

EDIT: Are they compareable to Shockers?kinda

All my answers above!

[mark_1791]

Thanks for the help guys. So here's what I'm thinking:

Ion (duh)
CP 2-piece barrel
CP feedneck
CP Trigger
QEV

I already have:
68/45 HP tank
CP drop
CP on/off

Maybe:
CP shorty reg

If y'all can't tell, I <3 CP!