Is the Dead Man Walk Really that big a deal?

[SlartyBartFast]

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=531615

Should Dead Man's Walk be Illegal?

How does AO feel? Ties in with the MANY threads we've had about rules and their enforcement that seem to degenerate into flamefest between the usual suspects and agreement (but no suggestion for plan of action) amongst the level headed that better refs and rules enforcement are required.

Is the general attitude as childish on AO that poor enforcement of one rule (how to signal an elimination and leave the field) should be replaced with an ambiguous rule banning an illdefined behaviour or is justification for breaking or eliminating another rule (bonus balling)?

[cdacda13]

I have never seen someone try that at my field.

[Blazestorm]

The thing about dead-man walks is... there is no such thing.

You are a.) eliminated or b.) not.

If a person chooses to leave their bunker, that's their choice. But people not to shoot him when he DID NOT single he was hit, then that's something different. He's still a live player, he never signalled he was out, so how is this different than any other move in paintball? It's less aggressive and you're moving backwards? I unno.

What I hate are people who pull fake deadman walks.. I witnessed an AM Player (playing in a Nov/Rookie 7man) get shot... he sticks his gun up, ref shoves him to the deadbox, he never pulls the armbadn though, his players tell him he's clean, so he goes running back against 6 kids (YG's playing in siad rookie/nov tournament, they won) who shot him up, he claims he was clean, blah blah blah. I saw him get shot up, the ref saw him get shot, but according to his team he wasn't hit... -_-

[-=Squid=-]

You deserve to lose if you fall for a dead mans walk. Therefor, it should stay.

[Blazestorm]

Everytime I've gone to a tournament around here it's been pulled... only a few times has it been successful

[shartley]

[Blazestorm]

In a 7man national tournament you see a couple guys walk out of their back bunkers, you assume they're dead, and most teams don't bonus them, rather grab the flag and run back to their side. There's a pretty good video of exile vs. naughty dogs on force of nature where an exile player actually TELLS the ND player to get out, even though he doesn't signal, he runs out and no one on exile shoots him, he waits till they get closer and some get past them, shoots all 3 of them, one of them turns and shoots back ( 5sec after he's dead) and they pull a 1 for 1 pulling the last guy. Leaving the ND player clean to run back and hang the flag...

[Lohman446]

It is specifically illegal and defined by NPPL rules

[shartley]

It is specifically illegal and defined by NPPL rules

[Lohman446]

I should have stated more. I'm not against the dead mans walk, I meant to state that some places have specifically made it illegal. I have actually pulled it off on rare occassions, and I think its hilarious to see

[hitech]

In a 7man national tournament you see a couple guys walk out of their back bunkers, you assume they're dead, and most teams don't bonus them...

If they haven't signaled their elimination then it's not "bonus balling". Personally, I think it should be against the rules to not properly signal your elimination.

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[Blazestorm]

Yes, but because they're already dead in your mind, it's the general thought to just ignore them.

[hitech]

Yes, but because they're already dead in your mind, it's the general thought to just ignore them.

One of the reasons that NOT properly signaling your elimination should be against the rules.

[Caffiend]

I voted no, it should be legal. I like the way Mcot2 put it "Ive only seen it work a few times, but its exciting, and a quirk in the game. Just as baseball has its hidden ball trick. Notice no teams do it, but every once in a while someone does it and it works and its all over the sports pages."

I do agree with hitech and his idea that NOT signaling your elimination should be illegal. Although I think it'd be a tough one to enforce...

[master_alexander]

i didnt think this really existed... my friend told me about it and in a rec game i tried it and it worked. i was gonna ask a ref if i can say dont shoot. i think that that would be funny. kind of...