Is the Dead Man Walk Really that big a deal?

[SlartyBartFast]

Let's recap so that Maggot and Squid can perhaps defend their position as it was originally stated:

I shall explain: The point is that you shouldn't need to signal yourself out. You're hit... That means you are out. Get off the field when the ref pulls your armband. The ref doing this is the proper signal, along with the hit on your body. If you miss it, oh well, if you get shot again, oh well. It doesn't hurt, especially when comparing to other sports. Paintball players are so damn whiney.

1 - A hit might be cleared by a ref and you might still be in the game.
2 - A ref has no obligation to pull your arm band. It is the player's responsibility.
3 - Even if the ref pulls your armband ASAP, that's precious seconds you were playing on. As until the PLAYER pulls their armband or signals themselves out (AS REQUIRED BY THE RULES) or the ref pulls the player, noone in their right mind should take their attention off the player in case they are still active.

So, following Squid's way of playing is completely agains NPPL rules on numerous counts.

Then we can follow up with the really telling part. Intent.

Having a hit on you calls you out. I just stand up, and walk off the field, or run, that way people shoot at me rather than my teammates. Who cares about getting shot. Seriously.

Why do people whine so much about every little thing?

The important bit is bolded. That can easily and rightly be construed as clear and undeniable intent to cheat and play-on.

If I come out from behind a bunker and see Squid moving on field and clearly not indicating he's eliminated, I waste my time and give Squid's team an advantage if I take the time to snap shoot him. His band might be off, but it might be on the arm furthest from me and out of sight. How exactly is it my fault that my team loses out because of Squid's failure to follow clear rules (alternately because he CLEARLY wants to gain an advantage by the cheat, or because holding his hand or gun up is gooberish) and the ref's failure to enforce them?

If Squid's failure to follow the rules causes me to shoot him and allow his teammate to move up, that's no "small thing".

[-=Squid=-]

"I smell the festering odour of troll..... "

"So, you're either faced with a whiney idiot who complains about getting overshot when it's their fault that they're not following the correct behaviour for eliminated players or you get stuck with self-absorbed cheaters who won't complain but who are very effectively cheating and playing-on by occupying your attention after they have been eliminated."

" fanboy/troll Automaggot"

"Hey Squid, You're an Ignoramus."

Doesn't sound very civil.

Look you moron, maybe you don't get it... But my point was that if I'm walking off the field and they are still shooting at me, then that is their problem. It doesn't affect me a bit to throw a couple of balls towards someone walking off the field, so why should it matter so much to everyone else? Maybe if it's so important to them, they wouldn't even bother. I'm walking AWAY from them, the ref USUALLY signals a player out anyways, AND I don't have an armband on.

HOW STUPID CAN YOU GET? If its THAT big of a problem, you SHOULD NOT be playing competative paintball.

And who the hell wants to look like a goober, anyways.

[SlartyBartFast]

If its THAT big of a problem, you SHOULD NOT be playing competative paintball.

Well, I guess ND and exile shouldn't be playing then.

It the failure to enforce clear eliminated player behaviour that causes the NPPL to create bogus rules banning subjective behaviour.

[-=Squid=-]

Well, I guess ND and exile shouldn't be playing then.

It the failure to enforce clear eliminated player behaviour that causes the NPPL to creat bogus rules banning subjective behaviour.

That is hysterical. You don't think they cheat their faces off?

[SlartyBartFast]

That is hysterical. You don't think they cheat their faces off?

Of course I suspect they cheat. But why even bother going for the after the rules that need skill to cheat and break when such obvious and easily enforced ones are being broken?

But what's you're point? Trying to defend your clear intent to cheat by saying the pros do it?

Proof perhaps that honour and fair competition mean nothing to you. You're blowing a lot of steam and making a huge fuss but completely avoiding adressing the specific quotes of yours that have been challenged.


Back to the origninal topic: I believe that Deadman walks SHOULD be allowed and the exile vs. ND video is a pathetic example of one. The reason is this: that any team worth their salt should have cut the player doing the "DMW" a new one and lit them up in the back because they weren't following the correct eliminated player behaviour.

Problem is the single braincell idiots reffing would probably have called them for overshooting.

[SlartyBartFast]

I'm walking AWAY from them, the ref USUALLY signals a player out anyways, AND I don't have an armband on.

The first is consistent with a DMW, the second is a "usually" that can't be counted on, and the third isn't my problem. I shouldn't have to look for an armband.

[Lohman446]

That is hysterical. You don't think they cheat their faces off?

There cheating is to win though.. not to "avoid looking like a goober".

[CoolHand]

I repeat: I am a cockwad.

LMAO.

God how I love it when an argument gets to this point (you know, the sarcasm before the storm).

This is the best time to lurk in a thread.

/me wishes we had that popcorn chicken smiley

/me thinks this is going to be like Jerry Springer . . . . . . . . . except everyone will have all their teeth to start with.

[tony3]

Just to let EVERYONE know, DMW is illegal in xball.

[-=Squid=-]

There cheating is to win though.. not to "avoid looking like a goober".

You have got to be kidding me.

[SlartyBartFast]

You have got to be kidding me.

Well, are you kidding us? Those were your own words.

Remebering what you said and addressing the big questions too much for you Squid?

[-=Squid=-]

Well, are you kidding us? Those were your own words.

Remebering what you said and addressing the big questions too much for you Squid?

What the hell are you talking about?

[SlartyBartFast]

What the hell are you talking about?

I'd try and use samller words. But I'm not very goo at monosyllabic communication.

So sorry the world confuses you Squid.

[-=Squid=-]

I'd try and use samller words. But I'm not very goo at monosyllabic communication.

So sorry the world confuses you Squid.

dereredererederederederder

EDIT: You use smileys.

[SlartyBartFast]

Anybody intelligent left in this thread?

Squid has proven incapable of communicating, following a conversation, sticking to his own declarations, or otherwise remaining coherent.

And while apt to use the word "Goober" fails to understand or provide a meaning for the word and seems to experience memory loss when using it. :rofl:

It wouldn't be quite so sad if we all didn't know before hand that Squid would fall apart and decend to that level. Everytime rules are mentioned logic seems to quickly leave his skill set and ridicule and stupidity seem to be his only alternative.

The dislike of smilies seems to be an issue as well. :rofl: