Hybrid has a Bad Day

[Pha|anx]

WTF are you talking about man.

Proto is a Dye subsidiary.

Hybrid a is a private company.

Dye makes Hybrid pants. So this idiot, me, thought they where associated in some way. Wow... My logic is great. Apologies for my incompetence.

Honestly, why not just have regular black wraparound grips...they are the most comfortable...

Ever try Dye S3s?

[Carbon]

Dye makes Hybrid pants. So this idiot, me, thought they where associated in some way. Wow... My logic is great. Apologies for my incompetence.

Ever try Dye S3s?

sorry man sometimes sarcasm is hard to detect.

[WARPED1]

They keep saying "Hybrid is a great company trying to make it big". Obviously Hybrids not that good if all they do is copy other companies stuff and can't come up with an original design.

[lather]

I didnt know right and wrong had borders.


Instead of being a FOTM company, perhaps this will be good for Hybrid in the long run, by forcing them to come up with something original.

Maybe they will come up with grips with Ninjas on them
Or perhaps Pirates.
Or for the Gangsta tweenies, how about Gotti grips?

Or for the non-gangsta types how about an image of Clint Eastwood?? Call em Dirty Harry Handlez
or something like that.

[Carbon]

the contract killer character may resemble the guy on the cover of himtan contracts, but that doesnt mean that it was a DIRECT copy of it you morons. It is "bad guy" grips, and is a picture of a guy in a suit w/ a gun that is a contract killer. Its not a direct copy of the lousy video game.

If so there are lots of things that ppl could sue over. I dont see this measley representation of a "infringement" turning into a lawsuit. Most likely it will be forgotten and your Ecool points will be negative.

This is for lawyers and courts to decide. It does not have to be a direct copy of it, if it is in fact enough for people to recognize what the chracters are, IOI probably has a case. In a side by side comparison its obvious.

Imagine that, ethics in business. whoaaa man!?

[Carbon]

Maybe this will be good for Hybrid in the long run, by forcing them to come up with something original.

I always thought of Hybrid as a FOTM company anyways.

there is no such thing as bad publicty, as they say.

[lather]

there is no such thing as bad publicty, as they say.

Bah! you post faster than I can edit!!

me -1

[yakitori]

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=187172

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1286953

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?p=17896590#post17896590

Sincerely,

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[onedude36]

I less than three slarty.

[SCpoloRicker]

LOL @ yakatori!!1

/wtf is "Canada"?

[Banshee23]

Its a common image, and just cause this demographic community associates it w/ a video game is not enough to lay claim that the image is sole property of IOI. Get it.

Its not a stolen image. There is not an ownership of a image of any contract killing mobster unless its a DIRECT copy or almost identical to the image produced by one company or the other.

Ok, go here: http://www.hitman2.com/

Hmmm... looks like exactly the same picture to me. Also, if you go to Hybrid's website and look under grips they're not listed as contract killer grips they are listed as Hitman grips. Now I'm not saying that I totally agree with how everything was handled here but it is pretty obvious that Hybrid copied this and knew what they were doing.

[MarkM]

Yakatori,

Slartybartfast was not the creator of the original question thread which started off about LV headbands, he simply said (within the thread) why not ask IOI which he did with reference to the Hitman Video game...the answer was that Hybrid did not have permissions for the Hitman image....The resultant threads here and on PBN were based upon the answer to the email he sent.
If a Court or Lawyers (in conference) decide that the Hitman and the Contract Killer image are one and the same then Hybrid will have something to answer, if not then Hybrid will purely take it as any publicity is good publicity.
He (SBF) publically has stated he wasn't sure about the legality so he asked about a license agreement. Had he asked Hybrid do you honestly think they would have said "no"...this is always assuming that a court/lawyer decide that the image has been improperly used (improperly is a mute point given the imagery of the video game and the image of paintball so take the word improperly as to mean without permission)

[Arstron]

Its not a stolen image. There is not an ownership of a image of any contract killing mobster unless its a DIRECT copy or almost identical to the image produced by one company or the other. Even in the response from the IOI rep he said that they cannot sell HITMAN merchandise as they are not a liscensed dealer. They have advertised NOTHING hitman related according to their video game.

Looks pretty identical to me. Hybrid knew exactly what they was doing when they made the grips, no point in arguing about it.

[Gunther_mag_user]

Slarty, I now award you 500 ecool points. Make us proud

[paint magnet]

Ok, long post here.

What a bunch of hypocrits. The people getting angry would be the first to start whining if their work was stolen and used by others.

True, but is anyone on PBN actually intelligent enough to create something someone else would want to steal?

When the Gangsta Criminal thing became COOL.
Well, I guess in America it has always been cool to love and worship the outlaws.
So, no REAL suprise here.
We worship,protect and love those who would take ourrights, products of our hard work /ideas and liberty from us.

Exactly. Just look at the music and video game industry.

I still see it as being a weasel. Its not your place to contact them and tattle. The internet corporate international crime fighting ecool jackarse.

And who, a few posts later, sends an email to Hybrid calling their attention to one man? He informed a company that its copyright was being infringed on. You informed another company that someone on the internet called them on their illegal actions, and yet you see him as the tattle-tale?

Im glad AO took this better than PBN. I just came from PBN and happened to stumble across the same subject. Im beginning to get irritated with PBN, it used to be nice and helpful, now everyone just spreads opinions as facts and everyone sounds stupid....
...
Honestly, why not just have regular black wraparound grips...they are the most comfortable...

Can't say that I can recall a time when PBN was helpful, but I'm with you on the grip issue. Black wraparound grips, like those made by Hogue, are some of the least expensive and most comfortable available-- but evidently they aren't "agg" or "l33t" or whatever the hell everyone is saying now.

I mean, what kind of fool goes online in multiple forums bragging about his lame attempt to start a lawsuit. AO is classic of griping about lawsuits in paintball, and most here hate SP, yet you turn around and try to get one started cause you lose at life.

I don't recall ever hearing him brag of his actions.

Another thing I don't get--people trying to make this into some sort of Smart Parts lawsuit re-enactment. Smart Parts tried to sue multiple companies for using a design that they did not own a legitimate patent to. SlartyBartFast informed IOI that their legitimate copyright was being infringed on. The two have absolutely nothing in common, other than the fact they both involve copyrights, which is like saying refrigerators and televisions are the same because they both run off of electricity.

They keep saying "Hybrid is a great company trying to make it big". Obviously Hybrids not that good if all they do is copy other companies stuff and can't come up with an original design.

Well said. If Hybrid is a good company then I guess all other knockoff companies are good as well. Psycho Ballistics, 32 degrees...both great companies by that standard.

And exactly what the hell does it have to be to qualify as being stolen? Does Hybrid have to use the same mold to make their grips as IOI uses to make Hitman merchandise?
The side by side (or rather, top to bottom) comparison of the two images has already been posted.

You seem to have missed one very important point on the issue of libel--it's not libel if it's true.

I'm rather surprised that you wrote Hybrid an email. It seems rather hypocritical to me, though I am impressed to see that you actually know how to use the "Shift" key in conjunction with the first letter of each sentence.