Is the Emag Tourney legal?

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  • RavishingEddie
    Creator of the EMAG 9

    • Feb 2006
    • 727

    #1

    Is the Emag Tourney legal?

    First I have been playing paintball for a while now, but I am new to speedball since that is what I enjoy more now. I always liked mags, so I built my own customized Emag with Xmod to play speedball. The thing is I recently read an article that had said the Emag/Xmags where were illegal guns, because it gave you the option to switch to mechanical mode which offers the use of reactive trigger to give you illegal bounce or something like that. The article was old though so I am just wondering if it is still true or if the gun (Xmod) or rules have changed that. I am a real honest player and I would hate to have to not use my pimped out mag, because I might cheat which I won't.
  • p8ntball72
    www.southwestvoodoo.com
    • Nov 2002
    • 467

    #2
    With the abundance of fields that now allow ramping. you should not have any problem.
    Bouncing Mags should be the least of worries on the modern speedball field.
    Originally posted by AGD
    "No we don't install these things, there are no instructions and the box really sucks."

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    • REDRT
      Mags, Y use anything else
      • Apr 2004
      • 1854

      #3
      Some fields have a problem with mech/hybrid mode if you use it tournament wise. Most of the time refs don't have any knowledge of mags so many times you are safe. But in case they are mag savvy just pull the trigger rod. No mech function, no problem. I have never had to do this, but I did have to argue once at a tournament about this situation...

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      • 68magOwner
        Registered User
        • May 2003
        • 3475

        #4
        Originally posted by p8ntball72
        With the abundance of fields that now allow ramping. you should not have any problem.
        Bouncing Mags should be the least of worries on the modern speedball field.
        not true, the one time i ever saw an emag being used at an event, it was thrown out because it was bouncing alot, and, this was an event where ramping was allowed. Ramp is controlled, bounce, is unsafe. I mean, the marker would keep firing even as the kid was switching hands and stuff, it was just going regarless of the trigger being pulled or not.

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        • REDRT
          Mags, Y use anything else
          • Apr 2004
          • 1854

          #5
          Originally posted by 68magOwner
          not true, the one time i ever saw an emag being used at an event, it was thrown out because it was bouncing alot, and, this was an event where ramping was allowed. Ramp is controlled, bounce, is unsafe. I mean, the marker would keep firing even as the kid was switching hands and stuff, it was just going regarless of the trigger being pulled or not.
          Uncontroled bounce is unsafe. That emag was a runaway. Glad it was throwen out, but that isn't the way Emags as a whole are. The one you saw had issues.
          Originally posted by p8ntball72
          With the abundance of fields that now allow ramping. you should not have any problem.
          Bouncing Mags should be the least of worries on the modern speedball field
          Regular Rt bounce can get you booted in some places tournament wise...

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          • jenarelJAM
            Club Coordinator
            • Dec 2004
            • 1611

            #6
            Like said above, just pull the pin, and you'll be fine... unless your battery dies or something. Then you'll wish you had mech mode...
            you know you play this game too much when the neighbors stop fixing their broken windows...
            :shooting: :cuss:

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            • RRfireblade

              • Jun 2002
              • 5103

              #7
              Technically it IS illegal.

              You can change firing options on the Feild without tools (Hyrid) . Removing the trigger rod makes it impossible to chrono the marker as specified by the manufacturer.
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              • stop whining buy a mag
                I know what I'm doing!
                • Sep 2004
                • 414

                #8
                Like RRFireblade said, you need the trigger rod to chrono. If the field gets on you about it, you have two options. Remove the trigger rod and chrono in E-mode or remove the selector switch so it isn't as easy to change the modes.

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                • BigEvil
                  www.BigEvilOnline.com

                  • Feb 2005
                  • 9333

                  #9
                  99.9995% of the time you will be fine chronoing in E mode. I have never had any trouble passing either the primary chrono or on field spot checks. I think most mag owners dont use the "RT chrono procedure"

                  The simplest solution is to just make sure the trigger rod is not hitting the trigger hard enough to make it bounce and you will be fine.

                  Also, witht he XMOD, you can put a jumper on (just like the older versions of the emag software) that locks out changes.

                  If being able to go into hydrid on the fly is a problem, simply remove the lever assembly.

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                  • phantomhitman
                    ao's official bad guy
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1841

                    #10
                    no ramping tourney-make sure it fires once every pull
                    ramping tourney-your sol unless you choose to use one pull one shot mode

                    they will not allow bounce or runaway at tourney for obvious reasons
                    my feedback
                    countdown on devilmag day........ill let you now

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                    • GoblinGreen
                      Gobbling Green Goop
                      • Nov 2000
                      • 99

                      #11
                      If you have the emag in hybrid, and slowly pull the trigger, it will fire one ball, If you dont release the trigger and keep pulling you end up manually pushing the trigger rod.
                      Would this not be classed as two balls fired off one pull??

                      Ive always wondered that but never asked.

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                      • phantomhitman
                        ao's official bad guy
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 1841

                        #12
                        hybrid is not allowed in any tourneys, unless the refs have never seen a mag before.
                        my feedback
                        countdown on devilmag day........ill let you now

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                        • RRfireblade

                          • Jun 2002
                          • 5103

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigEvil
                          99.9995% of the time you will be fine chronoing in E mode. I have never had any trouble passing either the primary chrono or on field spot checks. I think most mag owners dont use the "RT chrono procedure"

                          The simplest solution is to just make sure the trigger rod is not hitting the trigger hard enough to make it bounce and you will be fine.

                          Also, witht he XMOD, you can put a jumper on (just like the older versions of the emag software) that locks out changes.

                          If being able to go into hydrid on the fly is a problem, simply remove the lever assembly.
                          The question wasn't can he get away with it. 99.9 % of the time local fields and Tournys let all kinds of crap by.

                          As per the manufacturer , there is a stated method for chrono-ing the RT valve and you can't do it in Emode and you can't do it without the trigger rod or the gun functioning in manual mode.

                          Whether or not most people properly chrono their RT is not the answer to the question either.

                          For the record , I don't have a trigger rod in any of my E/Xmags either and as it has been stated I also have never been questioned about it by anyone locally or otherwise. A few years ago an Emag of mine passed the judges at WorldCup in that same condition......for what ever that means. Still doesn't make it legal.
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                          • 68magOwner
                            Registered User
                            • May 2003
                            • 3475

                            #14
                            Originally posted by REDRT
                            Uncontroled bounce is unsafe. That emag was a runaway. Glad it was throwen out, but that isn't the way Emags as a whole are. The one you saw had issues.
                            Yeah, i wasnt to trying to generalize emags and say that they all runaway like that, im just saying that bounce is NOT something you let slide just because ramping is allowed

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                            • Lohman446
                              Useful posts: 7
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RRfireblade
                              For the record , I don't have a trigger rod in any of my E/Xmags either and as it has been stated I also have never been questioned about it by anyone locally or otherwise. A few years ago an Emag of mine passed the judges at WorldCup in that same condition......for what ever that means. Still doesn't make it legal.
                              I have also managed to walk several by in that same condition . Your point is well taken, and accurate, if you got a ref who really knew what he was doing he could decline to let your marker on field for A) Not being able to chrono according to manufacturer instructions or B) being able to switch modes on field without tools. I doubt you would run across a ref that was both that informed, that technical, and that "mean" about enforcing rules to the letter.
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