"HEY TOM" New idea's for AGD?

[spaz66777]

Like said above. I wanted a pistol and I like AGD so I saved up and got a Sydarm. I'm happy with that. I like the way it performs and feels when shooting it or just plain holding it. (mag love baby!)

I really don't see the general public coming back to mags any time soon. The main reason I made the Journey was that I played with a Phantom for a while and I liked th fact that mags could hit such high BPS mech and not need any batteries. I now own two mags and I am very happy with each.

Thanks Tom for making such good products and perfecting them with the Level 10, ULE triger kit, X valve, ULE body, Intelli frame, need I go on?

What more could AGD do? They have tried Electros, got some good threats. They have (IMHO) the best mech on the market as far as features go. They have advertised. They have been to major shows and event to display there products to all the "Tourny" guys. The "Now" market is Scenario paintball and they have met that market head on with the Tac-one. Spec ops has also made parts for the Tac-One and they regard it as one of the best Scenario markers on the market.

Again, Thanks Tom!

P.S. Yes I should be in bed. All-nighter with homework. Yay. Is it Spring break yet?!?!?

-Spaz

[BigEvil]

Hey, they stopped making big block 442's and Chevelle's 30 years ago but they are still going strong in the small dedicated group that knows and loves them. You can't expect GM to make them again just because there is a dedicated fan base, but that fan base can keep them alive.

AGD

Yup, but there is a strong dedicated aftermarket creating parts and such. Hopefully guys like Rogue, Tuna, and now Jay (sorry if I forgot anyone) can keep this ball rolling along.

[Automagsam]

Thanks Tom, and yeah you guys are right about all the after market stuff, it is nice to see such a huge fan base, and when we go to Paintball Sam's there is always someone with a mag, or someone commenting on how cool our mags are, it is like one big family. Yeah and the whole lawsuit thing, really ticks me and my friend off, but hopefully, with companies like invert putting out the mini, which if you haven't checked it out, this thing is pretty smart, anyways with companies like that it sheds some hope on the industry, but it also shows how much AGD changed the paintball world cause almost every where you look now you see guns that are using things AGD came up with, or just using the idea. I'm just waiting for Invert to get sued, cause it seems like other companies, and I won't name names but we know who they are, are trying to dominate using cheap tactics. Oh well I'll be with AGD's products till I'm being dug up by Tom in some field lol.

[turbo chicken]

Look at the slug body threads where the screams for product are answered but the product remains unsold.

I thought there weren't anymore ... guess i need to check again ...

[DSR75]

If anyone can point out where I can get a slug body, let me know. I know some people that would be really interested in getting their hands on some.

[captian pinky]

when is agd gunna sue someone for some money hahaha i love u tk

i own 5 mags now love them i will always have at least 1 or more in my arsenal

i think that we should start a new speedball tourny mech only only batteries are to hoppers thats it i think it would slow the game down alot and not only that bring mags back into the game because we are the only gun that can produce the bps without beeing electro so TK feel free to take this and go with it because i love agd i love mags and i love to shoot them and so do most of the people at pbc in sc i was at the field yesterday and counted atleast 10 +mags

[Coralis]

es I do still own AGD, Zupe owns the inventory and is selling things. It is certainly not clear even if we did make something that people would buy it. Look at the slug body threads where the screams for product are answered but the product remains unsold.

There are slug bodies laying around unsold ?? My tax return should be in soon have to look into this.

[snoopay700]

Yeah, the industry has really gone south, and i really wish i were old enough to play in the better days. Paintball is past it's heyday as far as being great, but it is in it's heyday as far as popularity and making money.

matteusz, you have a good idea, but most companies wont follow it and plus i like seeing growth, buth when all of the companies make similar markers (like it is now, AGD is still the only company that's just a little different) growth of the sport dies. I have actually been wanting to play pump for a while just to get back to the basics and not waste paint, and over all learn even more skill (my goal was to get a team together who could slaughter in speedball with talons). I mean i already get a lot of people out in 1-3 shots, but i'm still not as good as i'd like to be (i'll occasionally waste paint), and i'm tired of not having money for a good pump so i've decided to scrap my pnuemag idea for a bit and buy a talon and play with that, and alternate between that and my rt, so i learn how to use those tactics with that gun.

The industry is too far under in my opinion though, and i don't ever think it's coming back, but i really do hope that they bring back woodsball tournaments because i love woodsball (though speedball can be a rush) and would love to go into a tournament like that, but if they do they should restrict it to 200 rounds, but you can have as fast of a marker as you want. I view paintball like racing, woodsball is like circuit or road racing (not nascar) where you need to use more skill, speedball is like drag racing in which it's a rush but it doesn't take too much skill once you learn the basics.

Anyway, i really should've separated that post, it got pretty ugly because i didn't (actually i should do that now..) but yeah, paintball is definitely in a downward spiral and i understand you not wanting to come out with new products, because it's people like me who want new products, yet we lack funds. I really hope the industry looks up and smart parts goes out of business though, they are the worst thing to happen to paintball (proof here, curtosey of doc: http://www.vm68.com/stuff/smart_parts_is_evil.html ) and once companies like them are gone i think AGD can finally come out with new products without worrying and really change the sport for the better.

[tech-chan]

This thread made me cry...

[snoopay700]

This thread made me cry...

Yeah, but it's good because it'll save agd any trouble of a lawsuit and such until things get better, if they ever do, then things might start appearing from agd again (though in all honesty i can't imagine how they can improve on what they have). So basically the only way to have a hope of seeing anything from them is for companies like smartparts that care only about money and not about the sport to go down, and because of the stupid kids, like some of my friends who buy into the whole paintball hype and how it's possible to walk faster than 15 bps, i don't see those companies going down anytime soon.

[turbo chicken]

Now that i read it again ... about the slug bodies ... I think tom meant ... something like ... we made them and they didn't exactly fly off of the shelves at release ... it took a long time to sell all of them ... thus the "sitting on shelves" comment

[nathanjones008]

good

these are very good points airgun has made great products. they are near perfect. something i would like to see is some type of valve that would make your maker shoot further into the tank. cheap 200 dolla electos get over 1000-1200, shots easly out of a 68/45 . Out of my mag i am lucky to get 800. other than that the airgun products are perfect.

[matteusz]

Efficiency would be great. Now that I have had a little sleep and time at the park with the kid to clear my head I can see the point of my ramblings from last night even clearer. The idea is not to defeat the litigious imbeciles ruining paintball the idea is to ignore them let them go on their merry way and create something with the exceptions to the idiocy that will open up a whole new market. A producer driven tournament league with the goal of the game becoming the sport would not only contribute to the survival of paintball it would also create a new market (and the need to create a new product).

You make guys play take with paint soaked battle swabs for a year before they can graduate to pump play and 20 rounds and you will see some motivation to gain skill. The guys playing semi with 100 rounds would be demigods. The rest would fall into place.

[AGDRetro]

I honestly like supporting what many might view as a sort of Ma & Pa manufacturer. I would love to see AGD flourish but at the same time, I like the "what is that?" attention that my Mag grabs at alot of local fields. They already have so many great products, and part of why I love them is their dedication to providing the finest mechanical gun money can buy. Performance that comes from finely tuned parts and engineering as opposed to the programming on a circuit board is worth so much more to me. I have 2 Mags right now, and have seriously thought about building a 3rd one. Right now the only thing I can say I would really like to see come out of AGD is aluminum Classic valves...

Tom & the AGD Crew will move when the time is right

[snoopay700]

Efficiency would be great. Now that I have had a little sleep and time at the park with the kid to clear my head I can see the point of my ramblings from last night even clearer. The idea is not to defeat the litigious imbeciles ruining paintball the idea is to ignore them let them go on their merry way and create something with the exceptions to the idiocy that will open up a whole new market. A producer driven tournament league with the goal of the game becoming the sport would not only contribute to the survival of paintball it would also create a new market (and the need to create a new product).

You make guys play take with paint soaked battle swabs for a year before they can graduate to pump play and 20 rounds and you will see some motivation to gain skill. The guys playing semi with 100 rounds would be demigods. The rest would fall into place.

Yeah, but as cool as that sounds, it seems like too much overkill for anyone to even think about picking it up, but i do like your idea, only they have paintbrushes instead.