"HEY TOM" New idea's for AGD?

[Desega]

I'm glad TK cleared up my missunderstanding. I thought he was done with AGD. Now I'm happy.

[Lenny]

I'm glad TK cleared up my missunderstanding. I thought he was done with AGD. Now I'm happy.

I don't think Tom will ever truly be "done" with paintball. I mean, it's been a huge part of his life for so long. He's just doing some other stuff that he enjoys right now.

[thecavemankevin]

semi off topic here: does anyone have that pic of Tom from a WW2 scenario (i think) about 3-4 years ago i think where he was running with two sidearms, a welcome home mat sticking out the top back of his shirt? I think he was running across a bridge.

anyone remember that?

[turbo chicken]

semi off topic here: does anyone have that pic of Tom from a WW2 scenario (i think) about 3-4 years ago i think where he was running with two sidearms, a welcome home mat sticking out the top back of his shirt? I think he was running across a bridge.

anyone remember that?

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[nathanjones008]

as long as they have parts kit for my ule rt i am peachy

[JimmyBeam]

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[thecavemankevin]

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thanx man, been semi looking for that for a while now

[turbo chicken]

really ... what makes ... you think that ...

:dodgy:

Just trying to read into his comment ... i could be completely wrong ...

but When i first read his post It sounded like that still had slug bodies in stock ... which if i remember correctly is not true ...

whatever ... IDK ... that was just my interpretation

[skife]

Hey, they stopped making big block 442's and Chevelle's 30 years ago but they are still going strong in the small dedicated group that knows and loves them. You can't expect GM to make them again just because there is a dedicated fan base, but that fan base can keep them alive.

AGD

but they continued to make 442 until about 92-93 i think, they were turbo quad 4 motors with a 5 speed.

[don miguel]

Nothing is coming rom AGD.
Not now, probably never again.

you were right when you said this thread pops up every month or so.

[Desega]

you were right when you said this thread pops up every moth or so.

[[NA]WARLORD]

Hey, they stopped making big block 442's and Chevelle's 30 years ago but they are still going strong in the small dedicated group that knows and loves them. You can't expect GM to make them again just because there is a dedicated fan base, but that fan base can keep them alive.

AGD

Actually, GM still makes those motors, just not the cars they went into.

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/454CI425HP-Off-Road-Crate-Engine-with-Iron-HeadRoller-Cam-12568774-P17C54.aspx

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/ZZ454-Crate-Engine-440-HP-with-Aluminum-Heads-12498777-P799C54.aspx

You can find just about any motor in crate form as long as the manufacturer doesn't offer it as a motor in their current line up of vehicles. Same holds true for Harley's. I agree that Mags have a strong following, I buy and sell them frequently, as a matter of fact, 2 weeks ago, I bought 2 Mags for 100.00 from a local shop (shop owner and techs had no idea about them), tuned them and tripled my money back on them. I have one I'm working on now and the money earned will go into finishing my Pnuemag.

I fully support AGD and always have. We may be a small group in this vast sport, but loyalty goes a long way and speaks for itself.

[FlawleZ]

Hey, they stopped making big block 442's and Chevelle's 30 years ago but they are still going strong in the small dedicated group that knows and loves them. You can't expect GM to make them again just because there is a dedicated fan base, but that fan base can keep them alive.

AGD

Not to intentionally contradict Tom's analogy, but another comparable situation was the Nissan Z.

The Z car was produced from 1970-1996 in America ('99 in Japan). In the mid 90's Nissan realized the market was dying for ~$50K sports car. The SUV craze was hitting strong and people really questioned why they should buy a 2 seater sports car when they could have a fully loaded Suburban for the same price. As sales dwindled through the 90's the 300ZX met its demise on American soil in 1996 and Nissan decided to cease production of the Z car completely as the market no longer held a viable option for what had become of the Z.

In 2003, Nissan reinvented the Z again. Going back to the roots of the car (240Z), the 350Z offered more for less and is now currently the best selling sports car in the world. What changed? Nissan went back to the original idea that made the Z what it was. Affordable performance.

Now, this can relate a couple of levels but I like to look at as AGD invented the 68 Classic which revolutionized the competitive scene in the mid 90's. As AGD progressed with its development of markers, so did the market. With the invention of the Emag/Xmag, the mag had reached the pinnacle of performance, and rightfully so. With the performance and quality, it was also slapped with a price tag to match (1990-1996 300ZX Z32TT>Corvette performance but ~$50K ) With lawsuits and unethical marketing tactics, the E/Xmag finally peaked and sales dropped. Thus leaving in roughly the same position a few years ago as we are now.

As much of an intellectual powerhouse that AGD is, I fully believe they are capable of developing a gun to revolutionize the competitive scene today. But just because they're capable doesn't mean they will or it would even be a logical investment.

[Sammy Sandbag]

Actually, GM still makes those motors, just not the cars they went into.

442 isn't a motor...... Those links you have are to a 454.

442 was a package (four-barrel carburetor, four-speed transmission, and dual (2) exhausts)

[[NA]WARLORD]

442 isn't a motor...... Those links you have are to a 454.

442 was a package (four-barrel carburetor, four-speed transmission, and dual (2) exhausts)

I know what a 442 is, it's made by Oldsmobile based on the Cutlass. It also had a 455 c.i. engine which was based off that same block. So, essentially, its the same engine.