LCE-Mag frame conversions.

[StygShore]

on off switch

I should have my wiring harness here shortly and be able to get up a video of mine running. I'll have to bum a Halo off someone to really give it justice.

Will the Spyder ESP frame fit in the Mokal body?

I just ran into a problem the T-board is too wide to allow a standard 9 volt into the frame, so the only thing I can use is the Java 9.6 that came witht he frame currently.

Not sure if this is a T-board hole placement problem ( there is a gap on the other side of the frame ) or a tolerance problem in these frames.


Styg

Converted frame is $225 with free install.



Fokus 11.5 oz.
Dragun 10.5 oz.
ESP 11.5 oz.

This is with the battery and conversion as it would be bolted to your marker.




No way. These are some really nice frames; I was quite pleased with them. Nice machining, what appears to be nice electronics, very nice trigger with fore and aft and tension adjustments. Nice wrap around grips.

From what I've seen out there this is the by far the nicest e frame I've seen.




No thanks I have an ESP frame, besides if these don't sell I'll keep them for myself.

[luke]

Will the Spyder ESP frame fit in the Mokal body?

You lost me. Did you mean ESP board in the Fokus frame?

[StygShore]

yea

Sorry brain fart, yes, will the spyder boards fit inside the Focus frames?

Just looking for an alternative for when the paint peels off and the cast aluminum ESP frame gets all pitted like they usually do.

Styg

You lost me. Did you mean ESP board in the Fokus frame?

[luke]

It dosen't look like it will work. Besides the boards being diffrent, the Fokus frame uses a smaller cap. and the frame design is completly diffrent in respect to the solonoid placement... (etc.)

[luke]

I had to approach this frame diffrently than the Dragun and ESP, here is a picture of the modified frame.







Clean, yes?

[StygShore]

wow

wow they really packed stuff in there, and that noid placemnt looks liek a much better idea as well, even over the spyder frames.


Styg

[luke]

There's 101 ways to skin a cat, or so they say.

[StygShore]

eyes ouch....

OK.... found a flaw in the bouncebeam eye install you did for me...

The milling of the body was nice, and the body itself does seem to hold the eyes in place.

The only problem is you ran the eyes up through the rail next to the sear.

Half way through a game I Disabled the eyes because they were acting all screwy, and my mag started making funny sounds.

Upon further investigation the wires for the eyes got sucked up into the body and the bolt has sheered 2 of the wires clean in half. I'm thinking and entry point a little further down the grip frame might work a little better


Styg

[luke]

[StygShore]

wires puulled

I pulled the wires tight, even tied them in a knot in the grip frame so they couldnt move much, I think one of them just got tugged by the sear. I did put them into the groove, it looks like it got picked up before the grove area though, closer to the center of the sear assembly.

Can't really say for sure.

Neh, I dont need to send it back to you, you did a great job on it, just not a real feasible way to bring the wires up and thru with all the meat missing in the rail, the grip frame is gapped a little because of a round lower assembly on a spyder, and a flat lower assembly on a mag, so running it allong the frame would prove to have its own issues as well.

Guess thats why most people go break beam and run it out each side of the frame up the sides of the gun body, keeps it completely away from the sear, but exposes the wires outside the marker.

Deffinately not complaining about the job you did, it looks great, just wanted to give you a heads up if soemone else wants the bouncebeam eyes installed. I'll get another set of bouncebeams and see if I cant bring them in a little further up the frame assembly somehow and I'll still use the groove and dilicone idea you had, seemd to hold very well.

I blew through another tank of air in it today messing with my level 10. Shooting about 1000 rounds of year old paint and only broke like 6 rounds of it without the eyes. Hoping fresher paint proves a little better. I'm goign to need to pick up a new hopper though, this pre-BE revvy just aint cutting it anymore with the speed of this thing.

Styg

[StygShore]

found the problem

I found the problem I think.

The little wall in the rail that you milled down as a recess groove for the wires on my body is actually cut down a little lower than where the body site in the rail. The wires are so thin one of them can slip into the gap.

I'll get a new eye set and see if I can gets some flexible rubber tube (air bubbler line for a fish tank should work) to run the length of the wires in that part of the body. That should keep them in line better and keep that from happening again.

Or maybe I can have them cut the wires to length before they assemble the eyes for me so there isnt a foot of extra wire I have to cram into the frame


Styg

[tdogreb]

Hey Luke, I'm not famialar with the fokus frame, what kind of board does it have. What modes of fire does it have and what kind of replacement boards can be had for it? Can this be done to an old style RT. My RT will not accept the ult without milling, can you do that?

[luke]

This is from Mokals site

This is a VERY nice frame, the nicest I've seen in it's class....

[Liquid Plummer]

So, having read all of this...

The classic valves cannot get this mod? Seriously? They need it more than any other valve out there.

Great mod though.

[luke]

The classic valves cannot get this mod? Seriously? They need it more than any other valve out there.

Yes, you need the ULT for these frames to be able to fire the marker.

I agree that the classic valve needs ome attention, but I don't know of any frames out there that will fire the classic except the AGD Emag lowers...