So...How's it going?

[Pyrate Jim]

Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excessive wear. Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub together.
Often the very young, the untraveled, the naive, the unsophisticated deplore these formalities as "empty," "meaningless," or "dishonest," and scorn to use them.
No matter how "pure" their motives, they thereby throw sand into machinery that does not work too well at best.

Almost describes modern politics, doesn't it? More broadly, society as a whole.
I grew up with a nursery rhyme ~ "Sticks & stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me".
Doesn't seem to be the case any longer. Apparently, words are sufficient to warrant sticks & stones, even bullets.
You would think looney Loomer would realize that. Transgenders are terrorists? I could address that, just not now.

Back to the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Two points. First, the only questions are ~ Did this man pull a trigger and end another man's life? If found guilty, what should be the punishment?
Nothing else matters. No number of ideologies or feelings can possibly justify such an act.
Second, how did it get this way? Why are so many so offended by perceived insults that they have to respond with violence?

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

I agree, but have to ask, why do we see so much violence? Are there truly so many incompetent people out there that we have to see it on a daily basis?
Perhaps it is influenced by hateful rhetoric. But it can't be ascribed to only one side.
This guy has a very one-sided collection. (Though I can't say much for his commentary).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTMeiuiP43s

These videos are common. Always Democrats and liberals. Why?
Where are these collections of Republicans acting like that? Even when they say stupid things?

[Tunaman]

Being in a sexual relationship with a "transitioning" transgender makes you as mentally disturbed as your so called sexual partner. These people should be in a mental institution. There is no gun violence...only mental illness. I hope he gets the firing squad and I hope it hurts.

[Pyrate Jim]

Lingchi was a pretty effective deterrent.

I also consider the whole "trans" thing a mental unbalance. But it's their mental problem, not mine. Unless it's shoved in my face, I don't need to know about it.
I mean, what is trans? Basically "in between". Neither origin nor destination. No longer male or female.
People who have voluntarily removed themselves from the gene pool, unable or unwilling to continue the species. Like a mule, bred from a horse & a donkey, and unable to breed with either.
Oddly enough, once a person gives up on propagating the race it's only a short push to eliminating the race. This has been known through history.
From Viking Berserkers to Roman and Grecian armies, the fiercest fighters often had what we might call the same "mental disturbance".
Personally, I'm quite happy with my own existence and find it difficult to understand.
I would have to check myself into a mental institution just to get away from these crazies, but I have the next best thing.
I live so far out in the sticks, we never see the big city turmoil.

None of which is pertinent to the topic.
Charlie Kirk did not deserve to die. The perpetrator when found guilty by court of law should face capital punishment, and that publicly.
So much online, so many opinions. Most of which are contradictory. So few facts and so much speculation.
I saw an image of a bullet casing marked "TRN" (can't find it now) and claims it stood for trans. Also clearly stamped "9-18" ~ not 30-06 like we were told. Obvious misrepresentation.
And the whole 30-06 thing. I've used that caliber when hunting. I've seen what damage it does even at that range.
Hopefully the truth will come out and regardless of feelings or false narratives, justice will be served.

What I'm afraid of is that it will be (or is being) a distraction used for political gains by either side. Not just domestically.
Attack on Dohas? Iran, Iraq & the UAE joining forces against Isreal? Escalation in Ukraine? Sudden increases in tectonic activity in the Pacific "ring of fire"?
Nope. Not a word. Concentrate on whether this guy is a furry.

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

Being in a sexual relationship with a "transitioning" transgender makes you as mentally disturbed as your so called sexual partner. These people should be in a mental institution. There is no gun violence...only mental illness. I hope he gets the firing squad and I hope it hurts.

And what have the republicans actually done about mental illness problems? ZERO. Hell Trump just literally just cut Medicare.

Literally the data says it's a gun problem :https://rockinst.org/blog/public-mas...nd-prevention/

But feel free to explain why Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Norway, Finland, Germany, France, Italy, ..... all don't have these problems all while being "poorer" countries.

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

Lingchi was a pretty effective deterrent.

I also consider the whole "trans" thing a mental unbalance. But it's their mental problem, not mine. Unless it's shoved in my face, I don't need to know about it.
I mean, what is trans? Basically "in between". Neither origin nor destination. No longer male or female.
People who have voluntarily removed themselves from the gene pool, unable or unwilling to continue the species. Like a mule, bred from a horse & a donkey, and unable to breed with either.
Oddly enough, once a person gives up on propagating the race it's only a short push to eliminating the race. This has been known through history.
From Viking Berserkers to Roman and Grecian armies, the fiercest fighters often had what we might call the same "mental disturbance".
Personally, I'm quite happy with my own existence and find it difficult to understand.
I would have to check myself into a mental institution just to get away from these crazies, but I have the next best thing.
I live so far out in the sticks, we never see the big city turmoil.

None of which is pertinent to the topic.
Charlie Kirk did not deserve to die. The perpetrator when found guilty by court of law should face capital punishment, and that publicly.
So much online, so many opinions. Most of which are contradictory. So few facts and so much speculation.
I saw an image of a bullet casing marked "TRN" (can't find it now) and claims it stood for trans. Also clearly stamped "9-18" ~ not 30-06 like we were told. Obvious misrepresentation.
And the whole 30-06 thing. I've used that caliber when hunting. I've seen what damage it does even at that range.
Hopefully the truth will come out and regardless of feelings or false narratives, justice will be served.

What I'm afraid of is that it will be (or is being) a distraction used for political gains by either side. Not just domestically.
Attack on Dohas? Iran, Iraq & the UAE joining forces against Isreal? Escalation in Ukraine? Sudden increases in tectonic activity in the Pacific "ring of fire"?
Nope. Not a word. Concentrate on whether this guy is a furry.

The TRN stands for TURAN manufacturer (which is a Turkish manufacturer) https://turanammo.com/

From my basic research they've never manufactured a 30-06 round though. So take of that what you will.

[Loguzzzzzz]

And what have the republicans actually done about mental illness problems? ZERO. Hell Trump just literally just cut Medicare.

Literally the data says it's a gun problem :https://rockinst.org/blog/public-mas...nd-prevention/

But feel free to explain why Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Norway, Finland, Germany, France, Italy, ..... all don't have these problems all while being "poorer" countries.

Mass murders happen all over the work, we are just the leader to answer your other question, HIGHER TAXES, this is why...

When are you turning your guns in..Set the example or STFU.

[Pyrate Jim]

Sorry I wasn't specific. It was the image that I could not find. Haven't seen it the past few days. Thought I had it bookmarked.
Finding TURAN was easy, which is why I called the claims misrepresentation.
I felt I was getting verbose, didn't need to include pointing out TURAN 9-18 is a blank. For a starters pistol in a race, or a movie prop.
To claim that image had anything to do with what happened that day or with the accused is beyond ludicrous.
I'll try to find that video again, I'm sure it was in one of those I don't often use as a source reference.

It was merely a comment, an example, of the content out there. The amount of speculation that degenerates into outright lies.
So few facts. Not even a coroner's report. Plenty of reports from Govt agencies focused on motives instead of facts. Should expect that.
My only fervent hope is that the ultimate verdict in the Charlie Kirk case is also the truth.

So, how about Luigi Mangione? Terrorist? Murderer? Charges dismissed?

[Pyrate Jim]

How to promote harmony between different ideology.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/university-s-charlie-kirk-tribute-defaced-as-students-hurl-insults-at-his-supporters-lost-souls/ar-AA1MGchG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=68cac93436d94139b55058e1168aa34a&ei=18

[Pyrate Jim]

Lots of what I would call forensic speculation about Charlie Kirk.
This is one of those I don't often use as reliable source material, the man can be pretty out there.
He spends the first two minutes saying "We got the bullet" and goes off about angles and indistinct video images for half an hour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2D2iiFLvxY

And of course, someone to prove him wrong. Using the same source images.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQEI-G_2yzw&t=3s

Pure speculation, zero facts. What we've been told is that a 30-06 rifle was recovered near the scene, assumed to be the murder weapon. But was it?
I did mention that I'm familiar with that caliber. I can verify that at 150 yards it will blow a hole clear through a 12" wide pine tree.
Found a video showing the destructive power involved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWrXWS-tNVs

Yet with no coroner's report, no Medical Examiner, no forensics reports of any value, there are a lot of open questions. I have a whole list of them.

And how about Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson? This guy doesn't have all his wheels on the tracks.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/chicago-mayor-brandon-johnson-vows-to-eradicate-law-enforcement-it-s-a-sickness/ar-AA1MMqan?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=e1a2138d579546d2890a0ae1ece1447e&ei=105

[Pyrate Jim]

Or maybe Dearborn, Michigan. The city mayor, Abdullah Hammoud decided it was a good idea to post street signs celebrating Hezbollah.
At a public hearing, one man expressed concerns and he didn't consider it appropriate.
The mayors response was...I'll let you decide.
I tried to find the most comprehensive video without opinions or rhetoric cluttering it up. It gives more context than a few second clip.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dearborn-s-muslim-mayor-tells-christian-he-s-not-welcome-in-debate-on-honoring-pro-terror-arab-leader/ar-AA1MHzGX?ocid=BingNewsSerp

[Pyrate Jim]

Haven't brought it up before, any sky watchers out there? 3I/Atlas? Any opinions?
From what I've read, based on velocity it's on a hyperbolic trajectory. Moving too fast to originate within our own Solar system.
It's path is closely aligned with the ecliptic plane, and moving retrograde to the planets. Currently making a close pass to Mars.
Estimated to be in alignment to observe Venus and Jupiter before leaving, possibly forever.

Some of the observations don't align with expectations. "We've never seen this!" they exclaim.
As if Humanity has seen everything the universe could throw at us.

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

Mass murders happen all over the work, we are just the leader to answer your other question, HIGHER TAXES, this is why...

When are you turning your guns in..Set the example or STFU.

What are you rambling on about?

Everyone is aware that mass murders happen all over the world. That wasn't the question though. The US far outpaces any of those other countries in regards to school/event shootings.

What the hell are you talking about in regards to higher taxes.

I'd gladly turn in any guns to solve the problem ya goof but I certainly don't expect any honest conversations here.

[Loguzzzzzz]

What are you rambling on about?

Everyone is aware that mass murders happen all over the world. That wasn't the question though. The US far outpaces any of those other countries in regards to school/event shootings.

What the hell are you talking about in regards to higher taxes.

I'd gladly turn in any guns to solve the problem ya goof but I certainly don't expect any honest conversations here.

You referenced poorer countries. First off, they have a fraction of the population the USA has, more people, more problems. I would venture to guess that they all have a higher income tax. In case you weren't following your own post, that was the reason fro the "HIGHER TAXES"comment.

I concede that the US far exceeds all other countries in school shootings but they still happen worldwide. So, you are one of those that choose to blame the gun and not the bad person. No point discussing this with you any further. People that shoot other people for no other reason than harm others have a mental instability issue. I have walked past many guns sitting idol on a table or in a cabinet and have never been concerned that one, without human assistance was going to shoot me.

[Pyrate Jim]

Why is it these mass school/event shootings often seem to happen in "Gun Free" zones? Perhaps we need fewer of those.
Humans have been killing each other since the days of "Sticks & Stones". Now they use guns, bombs, rockets, nukes.
The technology improves, not the motivation to use it. That's always been there and will continue to be.
You can't stop gun violence without stopping the violence first, no matter how many guns are turned in.

Aside, this one got to me.
Something I never expected from such an inclusive, caring and oh-so democratic a Governor as Gavin Newsom.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/kid-rock-is-banned-from-performing-in-california/ar-AA1N4iF8?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=6e9a1e970aa742b9e4dfcd03588d26c0&ei=6

How many live in California now? Did any of them have a say in this? Doesn't appear so. Yet Newsom is a man with Presidential aspirations on a Democrat platform.
I'm barely familiar with Kid-rock, but I have heard the name. Leads me to believe He's at least popular in some fashion.
Somehow Newsom's singular, personal opinion actually gives credence to refusing to allow a citizen to perform in the State.
If Newsome were President, would He do it Nationwide?

(sigh) It'll end up in court, again. Wasting time, opportunities and taxpayers' dollars.

[CitsejaMkraDehT]

You referenced poorer countries. First off, they have a fraction of the population the USA has, more people, more problems. I would venture to guess that they all have a higher income tax. In case you weren't following your own post, that was the reason fro the "HIGHER TAXES"comment.

I concede that the US far exceeds all other countries in school shootings but they still happen worldwide. So, you are one of those that choose to blame the gun and not the bad person. No point discussing this with you any further. People that shoot other people for no other reason than harm others have a mental instability issue. I have walked past many guns sitting idol on a table or in a cabinet and have never been concerned that one, without human assistance was going to shoot me.

What does population have anything to do with being a poorer or richer country than the US? China and India has far more people and less gun violence and also not as wealthy.

You saying higher taxes is a bunch of noise that has nothing to do with anything. Some of those countries have far better public transit, health care, and in some aspects a far better quality of life.

No see the difference is I understand that bad people choose to use guns because they are a far superior tool to kill things with compared to knives, base ball bats, whatever. The US military doesn't send ground troops out to war with clubs and nunchucks.

And what has the republican party done to address anything in regards to mental instability? NOTHING. Trump and cohorts literally just de-funded medicaid programs.

Only in the rest of the world does fire arm have strange physical properties, the fire arms grow legs and start shooting people and that's why in all those countries that I listed that have far stricter gun laws don't have nearly the same levels of mass shootings. Or maybe, just maybe strict fire arm control directly correlates to far less gun deaths.