The Official Iraq War Thread...

[cphilip]

We thank you kindly neighbor. :)

I realized a lot of people were not aware of the support being given. So I wanted to make sure they knew it.

[breg]

Army,
You are the MAN!!!!!! Being in the military myself (USAF) I agree totally with what you say. I know how it can be, people come your way with half truths, and ideas that were fed to them from some outside place, and they don't even bother to look into the information for themselves. T.V. makes us lazy.


Thank you again, Army

Breg

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by Army
I did my best to stay out of this thread, really I did. But I have to respond to CollegeBoy's assertion that the US was only in Vietnam to force democracy on the Vietnamese peoples...WRONG. We were there only to stop the spread of rampant Communism.

Vietnam was a UN sanctioned military action. Nearly every Liberal I know or read, will never mention, or do not know about, the 24 other countries that either supported or served in that combat theater (even good brave Canadians volunteered to serve with US troops, and were subsequently blacklisted and forgotten when they got home, but are still proud of what they did) with the FULL cooperation of the UN Security Council. That being said, most of how we conducted our actions there was already dictated by the UN. We had to work around those guidelines which hamstrung all our efforts, resulting in the less than favorable result. However, our actions stopped Communist plans for a SEA area of communist regimes, proof of this was found in the former KGB headquarters after the recent Russian revolution.

Action against Iraq is supported by at least 49 countries politically, materially, and with combat personel and equipment. We know the UN doesn't support this regardless of the guidelines of UNR1441, which is why the coalition has established their OWN rules to prosecute this war. Because WE are setting the rules, WE have pushed all the way to Baghdad with minimal resistance, and great success in the fastest/farthest military land movement in the history of warfare. No doubt, if the UN was calling the shots, we would still be in Kuwait as the eunich-like UN pleaded for Saddam to play nicey nice.

Don't like Fox News huh? Let me tell you about Fox news: Geraldo, as we all know, was a dyed in the wool life long hardcore Liberal. His assignment to Afghanistan has turned his thinking around 180deg. He used to be 100% anti-gun, but now carries a 1911 or a M92 for his personal protection, and has stated that he now knows that some people will want to kill him regardless of his personal or political beliefs. He used to be anti-military. He has stated before that he always believed they were not needed, and that their training simply made them "baby killers". He doesn't say that any more. He can't praise them enough. Fox news has also brought aboard Linda Van-Sustren a year ago, and in nobody's mind could she be called conservative. Hmm, seems to get a little more balanced as we go along. Hannity and Colmes is an anchor of the evening program, tell me that Alan Colmes is anything but a bleeding heart Liberal. Hmm, seems to be fairly balanced now. Compare all this to CNN/MSNBC who hired Peter Arnett...need I say more about a man who assured the Iraqi people that we are failing in our mission? Does aiding and abetting come to mind? NBC who faked a truck crash with explosives to enhace/create a gas tank rupture and fire just to boost their ratings? Peter Jennings who loves to talk down to Americans...being Canadian, I guess he gets to, in his way of thinking. Dan Rather, who hates everybody/anything conservative? Or do you prefer NPR/public TV? where you can get only the news and information they think you may need.

This war is just, if only to free the Iraqi people to live lives as THEY see fit, not by the decree of a murderous eglomaniac. To compare this action to WWII is fully acceptable, Hitler and Saddam have both gone down identical paths in history. The world removed Hitler and his murderous eglomaniacal regime, and we will do the same in Iraq. It is not a secret that Iraq sponsors state terrorism. Al Qaeda is not the only terrorist group out there, just the most forward in out minds due to 9/11/01. We have stopped them already, and will soon eradicate them entirely. Even Iran has seen the light, and is asking how they can be part of the world again. We used to have an AO member here that is Iranian, he related to us first hand that the Iranian people do NOT like their current religeous regime, and would welcome back the US and the west.

That you say that you do not watch or listen to both sides of the argument, says volumes about your mindset Collegeboy. You must have realized by now, that you cannot argue your position without all the facts, ALL the facts from both sides of the street. Just saying you are right...just because... only brings on the dogs of reason.


OK, that's all I will post on this thread. Dave

Forrest Gump: "And thats all I have to say about that."
*claps for Army*

[cphilip]

Back on topic now please... :)

[FactsOfLife]

That's the night the lights went out in Baghdad...

guess we'll see just how many pairs of night vision goggles the Syrians sent over....

Great post Army, you do realise that what the rest of the world calls genocide, CB calls stability right?

Might as well be talking to a wall Army.

[aaron_mag]

Originally posted by Army
We used to have an AO member here that is Iranian, he related to us first hand that the Iranian people do NOT like their current religeous regime, and would welcome back the US and the west.

Don't like where this logic leads us....next thing we'll be adopting a Richard Gere endorsed military invasion to free Tibet

[WARPED1]

Isn't Tibet free already?

[1stdeadeye]

Missed a lot!

Boy I missed some fun while in Disney. It was nice to take a break from all of the war coverage though!

CNN is reporting that all of the Saddam tapes were made before the outbreak of the war. Details to come soon.

Hey Aaron,
Don't worry about Iran. They have a Pro=West President and Parliment. The Clergy and Military are keeping them down. As the population is so young, wait for the current rulers to die off and Iran will be free! Iraq did not have that luxary.

[pbzmag]

More news on PFC Lynch. First reports stated that she had multiple gunshot and stab wounds. But a doctor told Lynch's father that there are no entry wounds. She does have a few broken bones and has gone into her first surgery. More are scheduled. More info here and here. Baghdad is also without lights. Coalition officials don't know why they went out as they did not target any generators. Forces have also started to fight for control of Baghdad Airport. More here.

[aaron_mag]

Re: Missed a lot!

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
Boy I missed some fun while in Disney.

Land or World?

It was nice to take a break from all of the war coverage though!

I felt this way after playing paintball all day Sunday. Then I realized that our soldiers don't get that luxury!

I won't comment on the fact that old age, death and change comes to all countries regardless if their name ends in a q or an n...

[cphilip]

Some of the latest Religeous mumbo jumbo...

Bagdad Shiek's

and another one

But yet...

Iraqi risks life to save Jessica

And some thoughts on "Exporting Democracy".

[cphilip]

Suspected Chemical site found and being investigated.

[cphilip]

Clipped from a Brit Hume report on Fox.

I make no assertion of any accuracies or inaccuracies personaly.

Hussein's Hobbies
A French filmmaker just back from filming a documentary about Saddam Hussein says the Iraqi dictator is an eccentric with a passion for cleanliness, who wears cologne with a baby smell, keeps his hair shiny and dyes his mustache to keep it black. Filmmaker Joel Soler said Saddam believes men should shower once a day but women should bathe twice because "they have a noticeable smell." As for his hobbies, Soler said Saddam likes fishing with grenades. After the explosions, Soler told the New York Daily News, Saddam has scuba divers go in for the fish.

Sounds like he would fit right in down here in the South! Hand Grenade Fishin!!!! Whoo Hooo! ...hey wait...whats that smell? Take a bath honey!

[1stdeadeye]

Re: Re: Missed a lot!

Originally posted by aaron_mag

Land or World?

I felt this way after playing paintball all day Sunday. Then I realized that our soldiers don't get that luxury!

I won't comment on the fact that old age, death and change comes to all countries regardless if their name ends in a q or an n...

Disney World!

It was a blast!

Iran will be free without the need for intervention. Youth is a wonderful thing.


*edit: Remove Sig*

[aaron_mag]

Re: Re: Re: Missed a lot!

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


Disney World!

It was a blast!

Iran will be free without the need for intervention. Youth is a wonderful thing.

We are not supposed to post political comments on this section but I can't let 1stdeadeyes hypocritical comments go without comment. You act as if Saddam was an immortal who would live forever while aging and death will take away all our problems with Iran. Don't get me wrong I don't want us to invade Iran but Saddam had been looking long in the tooth for some time now. Whenever they show actual photos of him now (rather than his idealized portraits of himself) I'm astounded by how pathetic he looks. I can't see how you can reconcile the two views....

As for cphillip's story on Jessica that was very heartwarming. It is inspiring to see that there are good people like that in Iraq. I don't know if I would have been that brave......

EDIT:

Interesting story on terror training centers in Northern Iraq...
http://www.msnbc.com/news/895185.asp