Gutter ball for "Bowling for Columbine"! (long)

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  • Army
    Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

    • Oct 2000
    • 5785

    #1

    Gutter ball for "Bowling for Columbine"! (long)

    Enjoy the truth, you flea-bitten dogs of Liberal excuses!

    (It's long, but a very good read)



    Heh heh heeeeeeh! I love this guy! Army
  • Ov3rmind
    Speechless
    • Nov 2001
    • 2637

    #2
    I read the whole thing, holy crap. Prolly would have made sense if I watched the movie.
    Converge Kills

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    • -Carnifex-
      Registered User
      • Jan 2003
      • 1434

      #3
      I read as far as "they listened to Manson" crap. They didn't actually, he was viewed as a poseur.
      "What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
      - Karl Marx

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      • Collegeboy

        #4
        Looks like someone doesn't like someone questioning American culture. I think the writer has a problem with MM, and tried to take minuet things and twist thing to try and downgrade a great film.

        I loved the movie. It has a great message. Why is a gun so deeply imbedded in our culture. Why does a bank give out a gun as a reward for depositing money?

        Why is it that we are so quick to protect this thing that is killing us at great numbers?

        Why does the average citizen feel like they need to own a mini gun?

        All of these are good questions that MM tried to answer in his Documentary.

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        • irbodden
          Registered User
          • Dec 2000
          • 3413

          #5
          Originally posted by Collegeboy
          Looks like someone doesn't like someone questioning American culture. I think the writer has a problem with MM, and tried to take minuet things and twist thing to try and downgrade a great film.

          I loved the movie. It has a great message. Why is a gun so deeply imbedded in our culture. Why does a bank give out a gun as a reward for depositing money?

          Why is it that we are so quick to protect this thing that is killing us at great numbers?

          Why does the average citizen feel like they need to own a mini gun?

          All of these are good questions that MM tried to answer in his Documentary.
          Collegeboy, you sir an idiot. The bank did not give out guns for making a deposit so simply, that was stagged. He spent the day before getting everything setup so he could simply walk in and out with a gun. Which is total BS.

          You obviously are lacking the brain cells to even be able to follow your own radical movie. He never said he is 'against guns'.

          "After making out Canada to be a haven of nonviolence, Moore asks why. He proclaims that Canada has "a tremendous amount of gun ownership," somewhat under one gun per household. He visits Canadian shooting ranges, gun stores, and in the end proclaims "Canada is a gun loving, gun toting, gun crazy country!"



          He twists, edits, and makes up things just like you Collegeboy.



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          • Collegeboy

            #6
            Originally posted by irbodden


            Collegeboy, you sir an idiot. The bank did not give out guns for making a deposit so simply, that was stagged. He spent the day before getting everything setup so he could simply walk in and out with a gun. Which is total BS.

            You obviously are lacking the brain cells to even be able to follow your own radical movie. He never said he is 'against guns'.

            "After making out Canada to be a haven of nonviolence, Moore asks why. He proclaims that Canada has "a tremendous amount of gun ownership," somewhat under one gun per household. He visits Canadian shooting ranges, gun stores, and in the end proclaims "Canada is a gun loving, gun toting, gun crazy country!"



            He twists, edits, and makes up things just like you Collegeboy.



            Of course he twist things around, but making them up, that is a far cry. They might be stretched to the brink of breaking, but they have truth to it.

            You have to understand what he is trying to do. He is trying to explain why a gun is so revered in the US, even though it does what it does. Why is it? That is what he is trying to do. Does it matter the painstaking process he had to go through to get a gun at the bank. The fact is he got one. Why did he get a gun, because he opened a savings account of some sort.

            Now I am not antigun, I own a gun just like many other people. But I do not think that it is the right of US people to own a mini gun, or an automatic weapon or any other mass destruction weapons.

            As for your comments about me, I will not even comment.

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            • 1stdeadeye
              Still around????
              • Jun 2002
              • 8501

              #7
              CollegBoy=Michael Moore!

              CB,
              You sir are a buffon. How can you of all people support a film that twists and distorts the truth. MM told no truth in this film, he made it up! Look at the NRA bits, he took old footage and made it fit what he wanted. You who argues against bias and distortion have no leg to stand on (pun intended)!

              The Rifle/Bank bit has been going on for years. They are giving hunting rifles, not ak47s! This is offered in liue of some interest. Banks have done variations of this around the country, wheter they gave away Big screen TVs or motorcycles. This is a bank that found a successful niche.

              You and Michael Moore are cut from the same cloth. You will distort or create facts to fit your reality. You will not acknowledge when you are wrong. You both deserve the severe booing you recieved. You here on AO and MM at the Acadamy Awards where he was booed off the stage! Of course, you will probably state the the audience was booing Bush and not him!

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              • Collegeboy

                #8
                Funny I am not a fan of MM, I don't agree with his tactics. But I can't blame him for trying to awaken the US citizens to a growing problem.

                MM uses the same tactics that the far right and the right uses; he just uses them to suit his needs.

                Could he have told the 100% truth about the problem with guns? Yes, but then it would be a boring piece of footage that no one would watch. He had to make it hollywoodish to get the play it did get and get the basic message out. This is the same thing the news does every night. The same thing the government does.

                I disagree with his tactics, but not his purpose.

                The sad fact is people are trying to discredit him, instead of answering his basic questions. Why is it that we feel the need of a gun to remain safe? Why is it that we feel we have to have a gun? Why is it that we are so gun crazy? Why is it that you can get a gun at a bank for opening up an account? Why is it that in the same store I can buy toilet paper, and food, I can also buy a gun and ammunition?

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                • irbodden
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 3413

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Collegeboy
                  Funny I am not a fan of MM, I don't agree with his tactics. But I can't blame him for trying to awaken the US citizens to a growing problem.

                  MM uses the same tactics that the far right and the right uses; he just uses them to suit his needs.

                  Could he have told the 100% truth about the problem with guns? Yes, but then it would be a boring piece of footage that no one would watch. He had to make it hollywoodish to get the play it did get and get the basic message out. This is the same thing the news does every night. The same thing the government does.

                  I disagree with his tactics, but not his purpose.

                  The sad fact is people are trying to discredit him, instead of answering his basic questions. Why is it that we feel the need of a gun to remain safe? Why is it that we feel we have to have a gun? Why is it that we are so gun crazy? Why is it that you can get a gun at a bank for opening up an account? Why is it that in the same store I can buy toilet paper, and food, I can also buy a gun and ammunition?
                  He says he makes documentaries, therefore he should not be adding "Hollywood" to it. How hard is that to understand?

                  There is nothing wrong with owning a gun and the guns being sold at Walmart are not the ones that are used in the majority of homicides in the United States buddy.

                  You are seriously never going to make it any where in life..
                  Last edited by irbodden; 04-20-2003, 02:40 PM.

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                  • MagMan5446
                    .....
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 2572

                    #10
                    Originally posted by irbodden


                    You are seriously never going to make it any where in life..

                    On a side note...


                    You are 14 years old. You know nothing about life.

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                    • 1stdeadeye
                      Still around????
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 8501

                      #11
                      My Turn:

                      Originally posted by Collegeboy
                      Funny I am not a fan of MM, I don't agree with his tactics. But I can't blame him for trying to awaken the US citizens to a growing problem.

                      MM uses the same tactics that the far right and the right uses; he just uses them to suit his needs.


                      You can't condemn one and condone the other, that makes you a hypocrite! And how is it a growing problem? Gun violence is on the decline. Heck, drinking and driving are far more dangerous to America at large! We have over 10 times more deaths from car accidents then guns, should we ban cars next? MM would have us do that wouldn't he?


                      Could he have told the 100% truth about the problem with guns? Yes, but then it would be a boring piece of footage that no one would watch. He had to make it hollywoodish to get the play it did get and get the basic message out. This is the same thing the news does every night. The same thing the government does.


                      This movie was a flop. He is a self agrandizing fool!

                      I disagree with his tactics, but not his purpose.


                      IBID..

                      The sad fact is people are trying to discredit him, instead of answering his basic questions. Why is it that we feel the need of a gun to remain safe? Why is it that we feel we have to have a gun? Why is it that we are so gun crazy? Why is it that you can get a gun at a bank for opening up an account?

                      To obtain that gun in lieu of some of your interest. First of you are buying a Certificate of Deposit with a term of between 5 and 10 years. You are depositing in excess of $25k as well. Further they are giving you a $2000 plus hunting rifle which they do not give you in the bank. That part is an absolute falsehood. They have a deal with a firearms dealer who provides the rifle at his location. The bank is not a registered dealer. When I first got into banking 10 plus years ago, I worked at Standard Federal Savings Bank(Bethesda, MD). We sold 10 year gift CDs that gave you a big screen tv. Did we have them there in the bank? No you fool, you get a gift certificate. That bank does the same thing and has been doing it for years. Again, it is a marketing gimmick that has helped that little bank grow it's deposits.

                      Why is it that in the same store I can buy toilet paper, and food, I can also buy a gun and ammunition?

                      It's because you live in Alabama fool! You can probably get booze their too. The only state with more rednecks then you guys is West Virginia. In WV, you can get gas at that same store!

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                      • irbodden
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2000
                        • 3413

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MagMan5446



                        On a side note...


                        You are 14 years old. You know nothing about life.
                        Since when am I 14 years old?

                        You sir, are another idiot.

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                        • MagMan5446
                          .....
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 2572

                          #13
                          Oh, watch out! He's 15, or maybe even 16!

                          Yet he thinks he's king crap of turd mountain...


                          You sir, have no room to be calling anybody a fool or any other name. As little as these words mean, it's an issue of respect. You don't have any for anybody, as one can tell from the rudeness of all your posts.

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                          • Miscue
                            Super Moderator

                            • Oct 2000
                            • 7105

                            #14
                            Calm down ya'll... or the iron fist will clench the mouse and click the ban button.

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                            • irbodden
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2000
                              • 3413

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MagMan5446
                              Oh, watch out! He's 15, or maybe even 16!

                              Yet he thinks he's king crap of turd mountain...


                              You sir, have no room to be calling anybody a fool or any other name. As little as these words mean, it's an issue of respect. You don't have any for anybody, as one can tell from the rudeness of all your posts.
                              You know I am not 14, it's been addressed before.

                              And yes, I do have a right to call some one a fool if that person is one. Collegeboy happens to be a fool, however he is pretty smart. Unfortunatly he won't get any where in life he makes comments like he does on here, in public. That's how the world is, but I am only 6 1/2, what do I know? . How many radicals do you see as CEOS?... that's what I thought.

                              Yes, my posts can be rude. Especailly when a troll such as yourself makes an effort to be an idiot and say I am 14 years old when you know that's not the case. Even if I was 14 years old, what does it matter? By that logic your word is worthless (How old are you again?) compared to 1stdeadeye's, SHartley's, etc. Is that how it should be? And this "14 year old" happens to side with the more intelligent, older members of the board more often then not.
                              Last edited by irbodden; 04-20-2003, 03:08 PM.

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