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  • Collegeboy

    #16
    National Security reasons?

    If it wasn't for the fact that China or other countries make a great deal of our stuff, we would go back to the one pair of pants two pair of shirts, and that is about all we own. We could not afford to buy those things if made in the US while affording the rising price of everything else now made in the US.

    Believe it or not, it is survival of the fittest, it is capitalism at its best. The US can not produce certain goods as good as other countries, hence they don't produce them. Cut off international trade, you have mass inflation, mass over use of limited natural resources, and a whole bunch of problems.

    Why don't we have strong tariffs, because they are basically illegal. The US just got hit with a law suit because of them, and will get hit by one thanks to the tariff on Canadian lumber.

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    • 1stdeadeye
      Still around????
      • Jun 2002
      • 8501

      #17
      Originally posted by Collegeboy
      National Security reasons?

      Why don't we have strong tariffs, because they are basically illegal. The US just got hit with a law suit because of them, and will get hit by one thanks to the tariff on Canadian lumber.
      They are not illegal. They are against the rules of the WTO. Big difference. The US lost an arbitration hearing with the EU over tariffs and now face punitive tariffs against US goods in the billions of $s. This is why the WTO is a very bad idea. The case the US lost was not lost on merits, but technicalities.

      This is not capitalism at it's best. That would be countries negotiating their own trade agreements, not being bound by a 3rd party. This would be survival of the fitest.

      The buying power of the US is unmatched. Yet we are unable to throw around our true might due to these types of organization. If so, your other argument is mute.

      P.S. There are not 2 billion+ in China!

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      • shinobidice
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        • Jun 2002
        • 134

        #18
        Isnt there only like some 6.8 billion people on the earth?

        China doesnt have the labor regulations the United States do.
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        • FactsOfLife
          Conservative Jihadi
          • May 2002
          • 2504

          #19
          Originally posted by Collegeboy
          National Security reasons?

          If it wasn't for the fact that China or other countries make a great deal of our stuff, we would go back to the one pair of pants two pair of shirts, and that is about all we own. We could not afford to buy those things if made in the US while affording the rising price of everything else now made in the US.

          Believe it or not, it is survival of the fittest, it is capitalism at its best. The US can not produce certain goods as good as other countries, hence they don't produce them. Cut off international trade, you have mass inflation, mass over use of limited natural resources, and a whole bunch of problems.

          Why don't we have strong tariffs, because they are basically illegal. The US just got hit with a law suit because of them, and will get hit by one thanks to the tariff on Canadian lumber.
          STFU. end of reply.

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          • 1stdeadeye
            Still around????
            • Jun 2002
            • 8501

            #20
            Uhm no?

            Originally posted by Star_Base_CGI
            Cheap Labor.

            There are 2.3 Billion hungry communized people living in a small country. Who are willing to do anything to try and increase their standard of living. SO they can have food on the table, Blankets in Bed, extra cloths and shoes.
            According to the World Factbook at WWW.CIA.GOV, China's population as of July 2002 was 1,284,303,705. So unless ALL of China got real busy this past year you are wrong.

            Realiza that in less then 20 years, India will surpass China as the most populated nation on earth!

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            • shartley
              paintball player
              • Mar 2001
              • 9169

              #21
              Originally posted by Collegeboy
              Believe it or not, it is survival of the fittest, it is capitalism at its best. The US can not produce certain goods as good as other countries, hence they don't produce them. Cut off international trade, you have mass inflation, mass over use of limited natural resources, and a whole bunch of problems.

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              • rhetor22
                Mag Lover (not that way)
                • Nov 2001
                • 1207

                #22
                Originally posted by FactsOfLife


                STFU. end of reply.
                Ha ha.

                I'm a firm believer in, anything made in China sucks.

                The quality of most of the crap that comes from there is horrible. Thats true with a real lot of the products comng out today though... except uh.. agd of course... er... yeah


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                • WicKeD_WaYz
                  Ohio State Football #91
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 1817

                  #23
                  actually lots of good products come from china. Just not automobiles.

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                  • Collegeboy

                    #24
                    Originally posted by shartley
                    If we are not producing them as efficent then we are not producing them as good. Easy as that. If the US produced its own goods, prices would sky rocket to where hardly anyone will be able to buy it, companies will lose money, and shut down. And all these new jobs will be lost. It is all about comparitive and absolute advantages.

                    Study that site I provided, it helps.

                    Cheap labor is part of the reason, but it is not the reason, as any economist should be able to point out. If not then they might need to rethink their micro econ.

                    Also I thought it was against the rules to cuse. I guess two people now have warnings. Or not.

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                    • WicKeD_WaYz
                      Ohio State Football #91
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 1817

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Collegeboy

                      Also I thought it was against the rules to cuse. I guess two people now have warnings. Or not.

                      You must be talking about Facts saying "stfu"...

                      are you SURE thats cussing?

                      where I come from that stands for...

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                      Whats YOUR definition?

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                      • FactsOfLife
                        Conservative Jihadi
                        • May 2002
                        • 2504

                        #26
                        My STFU does not stand for what The Boy thinks it does.

                        Same
                        Tired
                        Foolboy
                        Utterances

                        'I guess John Kerry went into the primaries without a plan to win the election.' - Ann Coulter
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                        • WicKeD_WaYz
                          Ohio State Football #91
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 1817

                          #27
                          Originally posted by FactsOfLife
                          My STFU does not stand for what The Boy thinks it does.

                          Same
                          Tired
                          Foolboy
                          Utterances

                          lol!!




                          -ryan

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                          • Collegeboy

                            #28
                            Originally posted by FactsOfLife
                            My STFU does not stand for what The Boy thinks it does.

                            Same
                            Tired
                            Foolboy
                            Utterances
                            Yeah sure, we all know what you meant. I have seen warnings handed out for that. I would have expected more from a fellow in your profession

                            And why do you always post name calling post, or whatever, and hardly ever attempt to disprove my sayings.

                            I am dead on on this topic, you know it, and what is funny is that you and others can't even admit it.

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                            • shartley
                              paintball player
                              • Mar 2001
                              • 9169

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Collegeboy


                              If we are not producing them as efficent then we are not producing them as good. Easy as that. If the US produced its own goods, prices would sky rocket to where hardly anyone will be able to buy it, companies will lose money, and shut down. And all these new jobs will be lost. It is all about comparitive and absolute advantages.

                              Study that site I provided, it helps.

                              Cheap labor is part of the reason, but it is not the reason, as any economist should be able to point out. If not then they might need to rethink their micro econ.

                              Also I thought it was against the rules to cuse. I guess two people now have warnings. Or not.

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                              • Thordic
                                AFTICA
                                • May 2001
                                • 5986

                                #30
                                China is a relatively small country related to the population when you look at populated land. 90% of the population lives on 10% of the land or something near that.

                                Most of China is uninhabited or uninhabitable.

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