WHY is everything made in China

[Collegeboy]

Well the US is a constitutional republic. Representative democracy is a made up word to not use republic, for democracy sounds better. The whole word representative democracy is an oxymoron. You can't have representatives in a democracy.

And true communism is communism. And by your own words it can not exist. So I don't expect for you to call any country communist anymore.

[shartley]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=republic

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Democracy

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=communism

[Collegeboy]

Then the dictionary is wrong.

Anyone who has ever read anything about communism knows that an authoritarian government CAN NOT exist in communism. thank you, go read the documents, you might learn something.

As to Republic and democracy. Anyone knows that in a democracy the people vote for everything, there are no representatives, that is in a republic. Go study, go learn, then come back.

[shartley]

LOL I rest my case. Thanks CB!

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by shartley
LOL I rest my case. Thanks CB!

No case to rest, read up on what communism is, you will see what I am saying. But as long as your refuse to, you will remain ignorant on the subject (again not rude), and if you continue to refuse that ignorance will turn into stupidity, and we all know what Aristophanes said about stupidity.

[shartley]

LOL You act like there is only one difinitive answer to everything. LOL Who is ignorant (not rude)?

And this is VERY funny coming from someone who has run to the dictionary so many times.

Good day..... think what you want of me.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by shartley
LOL You act like there is only one difinitive answer to everything. LOL Who is ignorant (not rude)?

And this is VERY funny coming from someone who has run to the dictionary so many times.

Good day..... think what you want of me.

There are slight differences to what a communist nation can be, but none of them involve an authoritarian government, or just about any government at all.

Again, read up, look up, whatever, communism. Read Marxist ideas, Engels ideas, etc... You will understand what I am saying, but as long as you refuse to learn, you will remain ignorant of the fact.

Saying China and etc are comunist nations is like saying the US is a dictator, just wrong.

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
And true communism is communism. And by your own words it can not exist. So I don't expect for you to call any country communist anymore.

So we should call the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba, etc.. Practical Communism then!

Listen 7 of 9, go assimilate some other fool, cause your argument is sinking faster then the Titanic. Theory means nothing without the pratical applications to validate it!

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


So we should call the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba, etc.. Practical Communism then!

Listen 7 of 9, go assimilate some other fool, cause your argument is sinking faster then the Titanic. Theory means nothing without the pratical applications to validate it!

No, they are not even that, they might be considered authoritarian socialist, but I am not even sure about that.

My arguement is as strong as it has ever been. All you all have said, is most people call it communism so it must be true.

I say go to the source and see what the founders of the ideas (yes I know there are others before Marxs and company), said communism is.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Then the dictionary is wrong.

Oh you are priceless beyond words....

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by FactsOfLife


Oh you are priceless beyond words....

I wonder who is more right.

A secondary source (at best) as the dictionary, or a primary source direct from the authors of the idea.

Hard one there.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


I wonder who is more right.

A secondary source (at best) as the dictionary, or a primary source direct from the authors of the idea.

Hard one there.

[1stdeadeye]

Listen 7 of 9!

Ideas and theories evolve. Nothing remains the same forever (except for your arguments )!

Sam's example is perfect. By your definition, then true Christianity doesn't exist either?

Earlier I stated True Democracy as practiced in a small village or town and you immediatly jumped to representative democracy as practiced in the United States. This seems to be your modus operendi! Once someone pokes a whole in your argument, jump to another subject.

I have an idea for you. Go to the Chinese Consulate and infrom them that you are unhappy with their soiling the good name of communism. Then demand they change the name of their government to an Oligarchy. Tell them if they fail to do so that they are ignorant!

Marx, Lenin, and Engels did not invent Communism any more then Pope John Paul II invented the Roman Catholic Church. Each put their own stamp on it! Communism EVOLVED into what we see today! Why? BECAUSE TRUE COMMUNISM CAN NOT WORK! HUMAN BEINGS HAVE FREE WILL! COMMUNISM REQUIRES 1 WILL FOR THE GOOD OF ALL! I guess the only example we have of TRUE Communism is indeed: THE BORG!

Go back to making your models and assimilating gamers!

[aaron_mag]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
Listen 7 of 9!

Please don't call him that! 7 of 9 was an object of lust and desire. Calling a male 7 of 9 is just wrong.

Go back to making your models and assimilating gamers!

Once more you go back to insulting gamers. I'm sure people CB argues with who have never played paintball tell him to go back and assimilate weak minded paintballers.

Originally posted by Collegeboy
if you continue to refuse that ignorance will turn into stupidity, and we all know what Aristophanes said about stupidity.

We can equally wonder what the author of Lysistrata would say about those who bring up obscure references to ancient greek authors to make them seem learned and wise. I have a feeling that Aristophanes satirical wit would be in rare form much to your dismay!

CB don't you notice that no one is saying that China and Cuba is communism in the vein of Marx and Engels? If the thread was about the Communist Manifesto or communist theory in general your arguments would make some sense. Instead you are arguing that using the word communist to describe China and Cuba is wrong. The U.S. did not put the label of communism on the ruling parties in those countries by the way....

[Collegeboy]