My Rant about the quality of life going down in America?

[1stdeadeye]

I'm Done!

I am done with this debate!

StarBase CGI...You are too wraped up in your self-righteous pity to look for something better. Your statment about not wanting to work for a bank because there are too many blacks is racist at best. Your conspiracy theories are so inane that I care not to disect them. We are all dumber for having read your rants!!

I grew up on Mallow Hill Road, right next to Cannon Park in Baltimore. It will always be my hometown. You want to slam it go ahead, but don't expect everyone to follow your train of thought and congratulate you for your "deep" insights.

Many of your posts here have been incoherent rantings. When Restola pointed this out to you, you compared his intellect to a slug. You claim to have a college degree, yet are poor and unable to find work. Yet you found the money for Shattnerball, eh?

I am done with this thread. Time to hit the Unsubscribe Button!

AM, I am outta this one now!

[gibby]

You know, I used to go out with this girl who was too caught up in self pity. She would dwell on things that happened in the past and would use those as an excuse to justify her lack of effort or laziness. She felt like the world owed her everything and felt like an injustice has been done on her when the world didn't take notice.

I hate to say this Starbase...but your attitudes remind me of a lot like her. A lot of people here tried to help you out by giving you advice or suggestions. Some agreed, some disagreed but that doesn't change your overall situation. Just look at yourself and the situation you are in. Did complaining about it and pissing people off with your closed mindedness help you any? All because they didn't agree with you or didn't fall for your pity?

I totally understand that you don't like to respond to what I have to say to you because of what I said a while back. But that's alright. I'm not afraid to give my opinions to you and about you.

But you know, the one good thing about my ex-girlfriend was...she did eventually open her eyes and realize that life wouldn't get any better unless she put some hard effort into making it better. I really can't say the same for you because after all this time, you still moan and groan about being out of work and having a low/no income. Hey, for some $13/hr is enough to keep them afloat. If you want to demand the higher pay rates, prove that you deserve it.

Hell, when I first started working for the company I'm with right now, I was lowballed because I didn't have prior experience. But you know what got me hired? It was my overall attitude of wanting to try real hard and wasn't afraid of hard work. It took around 4 years to finally catch up to the industry standard. You know what? It was worth it! Worth it because I can say that I made it into an industry where others said I couldn't do it.

Am I rich? No. In fact, just this week alone, I worked around 80 hours! Here's the kicker...I didn't earn any overtime hours. So all the work I did this week, I get paid for 40 hours. If you want to moan and groan about something, don't even start with me...keep it to yourself cause you don't get any pity from the hard working people.

[aaron_mag]

Re: I'm Done!

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
StarBase CGI...You are too wraped up in your self-righteous pity to look for something better. Your statment about not wanting to work for a bank because there are too many blacks is racist at best.

Didn't see this back there. Sheesh.

My debate is not about the whole StarBase CGI thing. I haven't been following that. What I have a problem with is people who claim that the reason things are tough now (and I don't believe they truly are tougher now) is because of "the government".

I hear the same comment here in Portland all the time. Our tax system is income tax based and people complain and complain about it. Then they go to another city and come back and say, "I couldn't live there! Our city is so beautiful. They have so much traffic, so much sprawl, etc."

Well guess what? You have to pay for having nice things, for having a well designed city, and for having a good place to live! This includes having good public schools and paying for police on the street. Is there waste in our government? Of course. Only Rhode Island spends more on school administration per student while we spend some of the lowest on teachers in the class room. Of course that pisses me off. But that doesn't mean I want no government like some of these right wing radio wackos. There I'm done with my rant!!!!!

[845]

Lol, and what does this have to do with the problems in America. Who are you to tell this kid, who isn't much younger than you and I, what he should or shouldn't be singing. Dont act like you know what "kids these days should be doing", your a kid and I'm a kid, saying stuff like that makes you look foolish IMO.

I am sorry you didnt see the sarcasm there.

[Albinonewt]

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Originally posted by aaron_mag
But that doesn't mean I want no government like some of these right wing radio wackos. There I'm done with my rant!!!!!

Right wingers (me) don't want NO government. We want reduced federal government and federalism.

What you describe is Anarchy, and not our goal at all.

[Collegeboy]

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Originally posted by Albinonewt


Right wingers (me) don't want NO government. We want reduced federal government and federalism.

What you describe is Anarchy, and not our goal at all.

The right uses the idea of a smaller government to gain votes, but if you look at what laws they pass, they just want as big of a government as the left, just bigger in different areas.

[Albinonewt]

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Originally posted by Collegeboy


The right uses the idea of a smaller government to gain votes, but if you look at what laws they pass, they just want as big of a government as the left, just bigger in different areas.

That's the political right, not the ideological right.

The real problem is that both Republicans and Democrats just use legislation to buy votes so they can stay in office. There's not enough people in government that are actually interested in governing, they just want to be in power and stay there. Look at Bob Byrd. He's been in the Senate for decades and all he's accomplished in that time to ship truck loads of money to West Virginia. People like him are a disgrace. I've always advocated much stricter term limits in order to curb the problems of abuse, but there's almost no chance of that every happening.

Anyways, back to your original point, the conservative right doesn't agree with those tactics, but the Moderate and Liberal Republicans do, in order to stay in power. For most of the conservatives in the government they come from states where they don't need to "soften" up in order to stay in office.

[Star_Base_CGI]

I want a smaller 60v4rnm4nt. Id like some things like Airports and Power lines or grids regulated. SO were not living in the 1950s. The rest of the 60v3rnm3nt can goto Haties.

I dont care if we have nuclear carriers, train stations or any of that garbage. We cant save the world at all and every time we try we screw things up.

It would be nice if the 60v4rnm4nt took care of cleaning public restrooms or parks. The rest of the stuff like homeland defense and the other 200 agencies that you can never reach a number at or get any help for drug dealers at the DEA I could give a rats behind.

[Albinonewt]

Well, you could have said something more ignorant and uninformed, but it would have been tough.

I give it a 9.5

[Restola]

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Originally posted by Albinonewt
The real problem is that both Republicans and Democrats just use legislation to buy votes so they can stay in office.

Exactly. I barely even consider Republicans "right" any more. Thanks to the two-party system that (surprisingly enough) the two parties have set up, the voters only have 2 choices (even though Libertarians hold more than 300 elected positions, twice all other third parties combined, you never hear about them anywhere).

Both parties know that the enviro-whackos will never vote for a republican, and the greedy rich will never vote for a democrat, so they spend their time looking just different enough, and playing to the same fraction of voters (the so called "swing" voters), and are now nearly indistinguishable.

Its really too bad that politics attracts politicians.

*edited to fix a wrong number*

[aaron_mag]

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Originally posted by Restola

Exactly. That is why the Constitution gets side-stepped every day.

Its really too bad that politics attracts politicians.

Lets face it what "honest" person would want to do it for the amount of money you get. I actually think Ventura wanted to do good things but after dealing with the press and being attacked when he could earn a larger salary elsewhere he just said screw this!!!

Republicans and Democrats both have their pet projects they want to protect (typically they have financial ties to the pet project as well). That is why I really believe that having a 50/50 split is the best way to go. Trust a bunch of thieves to keep each other in check

[Albinonewt]

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Originally posted by Restola
Both parties know that the enviro-whackos will never vote for a republican, and the greedy rich will never vote for a democrat, so they spend their time looking just different enough, and playing to the same fraction of voters (the so called "swing" voters), and are now nearly indistinguishable.

Be fair, the greedy rich vote Democrat on a fairly regular basis as well. After all, Bloomburg, Warren Buffet, the Rockerfellers, and nearly everyone in Hollywood votes Democrat.

But you're certainly right about the crux of your arguement, which is the teacher's union will always vote Democrat so trying to do something about it basically futile. Look at the steel workers. Bush just passed the tarrifs to protect steel and then the unions go and throw their support behind Gephardt.

[Albinonewt]

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Originally posted by aaron_mag
That is why I really believe that having a 50/50 split is the best way to go. Trust a bunch of thieves to keep each other in check

The problem with that is that literally nothing would ever be accomplished. And while it would be nice for the goverment to stop working in a corrupt fashion I would not like to see it stop working altogether.

[Restola]

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Originally posted by Albinonewt
The problem with that is that literally nothing would ever be accomplished.

The problem is that they would continue to scratch eachother's backs

[Albinonewt]

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Originally posted by Restola

The problem is that they would continue to scratch eachother's backs

Certainly feasible. Right now I would tend to believe that both parties would dig their heels in and activily obstruct each other and not scratch each other's backs.

On the other hand, since both parties have members that are not ideologically faithful to the party as a whole it is certainly possible that their prescence would be enough to destabilize either party to the point that it had to cut a deal for fear of giving away everything in a sneak attack from within.

The Republicans suffer from that problem more then the democrats.