how can you sit there and say iraq is not going well?! we took control basically! i mean yea we get attacked BUT WHATS A WAR WITHOUT SPILLING BLOOOD? im not saying war is good just saying you cant expect to be in combat without suffering losses and on average less than one of our soldiers die a day compare that the all other conflicts in history! sure we are having trouble hunting down all these leaders they had over there but cmon their hiding like little kids it takes time to find them... on another note yea bush is not the greatest man for the job but hes done good so far imho and ill be damned if some new guy gets the office and pulls us out of iraq and afghanistan
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Uhhh, I'm too lazy to go into details, but generally it isn't going too well.
Not to mention, we can't exactly brag about how well the offensive went, we were invading a country with very low morale."What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
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when you decide to get off your butt pls show some sort of arguement
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Were not leaving Iraq any earlier than the next president because to do so will be proving The big W, and his advisors wrong. We didnt' find any WMD's which was supposibly the main reason we went in there. Then when they realized they weren't GOING to find any they switched the whole thing to how evil Sadam was and that he killed all these people. Let's face it Saddam(i do not support him) was a more competant leader than George W(i love america, just not him) will ever be.Comment
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And your credibility goes right out the window...Originally posted by madgoat33
Let's face it Saddam(i do not support him) was a more competant leader than George W(i love america, just not him) will ever be.
Comparing the leadership of any brutal dictator to that of any elected president is moronic at best.
You are missing so much that I don't even know where to start.Comment
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I honestly have no idea how these will compare, but:Originally posted by -Carnifex-
Uhhh, I'm too lazy to go into details, but generally it isn't going too well.
How does the rebuilding of Iraq compare to the rebuilding on Germany and Japan? Were both of those countries 100% rebuilt within 6 months? A year?
Anyone seen any articles or timelines?Comment
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You're right.Originally posted by madgoat33
Let's face it Saddam(i do not support him) was a more competant leader than George W(i love america, just not him) will ever be. If GW was as competant as Saddam, the Secret Police would be dragging you out of your home, never to be seen again.
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Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
You're right. If GW was as competant as Saddam, the Secret Police would be dragging you out of your home, never to be seen again.
"What we have to accomplish at this time is all the more clear: relentless criticism of all existing conditions, relentless in the sense that the criticism is not afraid of its findings and just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be."
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They can not be compared.Originally posted by Restola
I honestly have no idea how these will compare, but:
How does the rebuilding of Iraq compare to the rebuilding on Germany and Japan? Were both of those countries 100% rebuilt within 6 months? A year?
Anyone seen any articles or timelines?
You are dealing with two vastly devestated countries in Germany and Iraq, where the people opened their hands to help. They came to the table.
In Iraq we were being asked to leave from day one.Comment
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madgoat thats the dumbest comparison I've ever heard. Of course its easier to run things when you have absolute rule, like Sadam, in the form of a ruthless dictatorship. No one is there to challenge your plans and you can have dissenters executed. Things dont always roll as smooth in america.Wellcome to the rocky nature of democracy in action. I dont even like Bush, and I think u sound retarded comparing them. Your like friggin' fifteen, what tha hell do u know, go play Mario Sunshine or somethin'...Comment
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Not true.Originally posted by Collegeboy
In Iraq we were being asked to leave from day one.
One of the first polls of Iraqi sentiment was released yesterday, it showed 70% thought the United States was doing a good job rebuilding. It also showed that 30% believed the US would make their lives better and 50% believed the UN would make their lives better. The second one confuses me some, but at least they agree their lives are improving.
The majority of Iraqis were overjoyed at the sight of Americans entering their cities and freeing them.
Which isn't to say that EVERYONE was welcoming, but the majority were.Or better yet, why don't you kill yourself. No, really, die. Drop dead, don't leave a note, in fact burn your house while your little ego is stuck in a bench vice so that you'll also incenerate yourslef and everything you own with it. Because that's all you're worth. You're not even wirh thte time it'll take for the house to burn down, so just kill yourself. You're a waste of space. You are nothing, you always will be nothing. Don't leave a note, you're not worth the ink. - TygerComment
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I still think he's sitting on the evidence and it will be released at some point in the near future.Originally posted by madgoat33
We didnt' find any WMD's which was supposibly the main reason we went in there.
In his Sunday speech he mentioned WMD twice and made no retractions and did nothing to back away from that claim. I am convinved that they're sitting on evidence.Or better yet, why don't you kill yourself. No, really, die. Drop dead, don't leave a note, in fact burn your house while your little ego is stuck in a bench vice so that you'll also incenerate yourslef and everything you own with it. Because that's all you're worth. You're not even wirh thte time it'll take for the house to burn down, so just kill yourself. You're a waste of space. You are nothing, you always will be nothing. Don't leave a note, you're not worth the ink. - TygerComment
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So he is purposely withholding evidence from the world court.Originally posted by Albinonewt
I still think he's sitting on the evidence and it will be released at some point in the near future.
In his Sunday speech he mentioned WMD twice and made no retractions and did nothing to back away from that claim. I am convinved that they're sitting on evidence.
I sure hope he is doing that so he can be put up for trial and be kicked out of the presidency for using this information to get reelected.
I think the above actually shows who Bush is, and what his purpose is, funny is you came up with this idea.Comment
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Well, I have two theories on why he would do it.
1) The first is to get re-elected. That he's going to hold onto this stuff for another 9 monthes and then spring it. The issue with that is that he would A) be demonized for doing so and B) would probably have held onto it for so long that it'll be too late to make a difference.
2) That the adminstration is merely waiting until their fairly confident they have everything then they can release it all at once. If every week they released a handfull of minor violations it would add up to a major problem, but he's be counting on everyone keeping score for themselves. Hundreds of minor pieces of evidence will have a much greated impact if showcased all at one time.
I eagerly await to see what happens with this.Or better yet, why don't you kill yourself. No, really, die. Drop dead, don't leave a note, in fact burn your house while your little ego is stuck in a bench vice so that you'll also incenerate yourslef and everything you own with it. Because that's all you're worth. You're not even wirh thte time it'll take for the house to burn down, so just kill yourself. You're a waste of space. You are nothing, you always will be nothing. Don't leave a note, you're not worth the ink. - TygerComment
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I'm surprised this hasn't been closed yet. I'll make my prediction. Bush will lose in 2004. Heck he didn't win the popular vote in 2000. I don't care what the polls say.
I remember when I found out Bush had won. Even though I didn't vote for him I wasn't too displeased. I was sort of sick of Clinton and the Democrats anyway and figured it wouldn't be much different. Now I have seen it was tremendously different. Our foriegn diplomacy is a joke. We have tax cuts but our spending is higher than ever (thanks in part to our horrible foriegn diplomacy). I won't even go into who is getting the tax cuts.
He's going to lose. The polls lie. The average american (not all those stupid political analysts) are going to throw him out of office....ULE Body Level 10 Automag intelliframe + retrovalveComment
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