Breaking News: Saddam Hussein captured!

[p8ntball1016]

We may have problems with Hamas in the future.

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/371883.html

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
CPhillip,
I see a big hole in that theory. If he were a prisonor, why would he have been armed. He had a pistol and was in the hole alone. I don't know about you, but when I take a hostage, I usually don't let them have a gun!

Also, Amnesty International is now calling for Saddam to be given POW status and visits from the Red Cross! I say screw it. Let's just turn him over to the Iraqis and let them take care of him! I am sure they can find space for him in one of the mass graves his butchers dug!

not until we wring the bastard like a dish towel...

[Mateo]

p8ntball1016:Hamas has been making threats since their conception. Some of them are fulfilled but most of the time they are just what they are, threats. Hamas also claims alot of their actions are their own, remember 911, they said they did it, when in fact they didn't. Hamas reminds me of a arrogant cocky ricer with his souped up civic, sometimes he wins races, but most of the time its all talk.

As for Saddam,I see he will probably get a trial in Iraq for two reasons.

1.UN cannot hold the trial since we went in there without their support. So if France or Germany want to try him in their country and get him off easy, well they can shove it.

2.No other country can hold the trial on the grounds it doesn't involve them. This is a Iraq conflict, so it should be kept in the bounds of Iraq, the international community just gave them a hand on helping oust their tyrannical leader.

Liberals, conservatives, we are all Americans with just opposing views. We should all celebrate, this is a good deed indeed. Not just us Americans, but even the world celebrates, except the ones who hate the USA. Can't we just put our differences aside and enjoy this moment in history together, not divided.

[WARPED1]

Seperated at birth?

Charles Manson


Sadaam Hussein

[Mateo]

Also all the people my age of 16, please I beg you know your place in life. Some people on this board have been here and lived through alot more. Some are decorated soldiers, law enforcement, etc, they have more knowledge and experience then you could ever read online or see on the TV. Their opinions have more impact than yours because they are speaking from what they have done. Even I admit I sound like I know everything, but most of the time I know I don't. People like deadeye, cphillip, FOL, they are great guys and their thoughts shouldn't be debated but rather taken in and learned so that you as a person can grow. That doesn't mean we should be complacent and agree with everything. It is good to have your own opinion, it what makes you, well...you. But before you open your mouth, think. Respect your elders and their views, but its ok to give them hell once and a while, heck we are teenagers with hormones in full blast, its our job

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by WARPED1
Seperated at birth?

Charles Manson


Sadaam Hussein

LOL!

[impostal22]

Originally posted by Mateo
2.No other country can hold the trial on the grounds it doesn't involve them. This is a Iraq conflict, so it should be kept in the bounds of Iraq, the international community just gave them a hand on helping oust their tyrannical leader.

the u.s. could very well claim saddam was an enemy combatant, directly involved with 9/11, and not many (in the US) would really care. if declared an enemy combatant, it'll be up to solely the president what happens to him. this could range from detaining him in a navy frigate forever without trial or legal representation (doubtful) to a public stoning with dick cheney, john ashcroft, colin powell, donny rummy, and of course GW throwing jagged rocks at him (far more likely). lol but really, if he's declared an enemy combatant, there is NO telling what will happen to him.

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by Mateo
Also all the people my age of 16, please I beg you know your place in life. Some people on this board have been here and lived through alot more. Some are decorated soldiers, law enforcement, etc, they have more knowledge and experience then you could ever read online or see on the TV. Their opinions have more impact than yours because they are speaking from what they have done. Even I admit I sound like I know everything, but most of the time I know I don't. People like deadeye, cphillip, FOL, they are great guys and their thoughts shouldn't be debated but rather taken in and learned so that you as a person can grow. That doesn't mean we should be complacent and agree with everything. It is good to have your own opinion, it what makes you, well...you. But before you open your mouth, think. Respect your elders and their views, but its ok to give them hell once and a while, heck we are teenagers with hormones in full blast, its our job

*keels over*

I am an elder? Damn, I knew I was old but.....

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by impostal22


the u.s. could very well claim saddam was an enemy combatant, directly involved with 9/11, and not many (in the US) would really care. if declared an enemy combatant, it'll be up to solely the president what happens to him. this could range from detaining him in a navy frigate forever without trial or legal representation (doubtful) to a public stoning with dick cheney, john ashcroft, colin powell, donny rummy, and of course GW throwing jagged rocks at him (far more likely). lol but really, if he's declared an enemy combatant, there is NO telling what will happen to him.

Possible, but not likely. It is very important for the Iraqis to deal with this. They are already assembling a War Crimes Tribunal with assistance from the US and The Hague.

As much as I would like the stoning, hell I would even pay to see it on Pay Per View (It should last longer then most Mike Tyson fights! ), allowing the Iraqis to conduct the trial and punishment is necessary to their fledgling government and the Iraqi people as a whole!

[Mateo]

Well considering your about 20+ more years older than me, yes I consider you my elder...and an old fart

It will be in Iraq for sure. It will give the Iraqi people more confidence in that they are starting to regain control, be independent and be the start of weening off us. Also that the international community couldn't agree where to hold it because one nation will argue that is unfair Now Im not saying an actual Iraq court will put him to trial. Most likely it will be set uplike the Warsaw trials(or Nouremberg*sp* trials I forget) that the Allies held after WWII. Now for the charges...Oh man just off the top of my head. Inhumane treatment of his people, terrorist support, mass killings, the list goes on and on and on.

[impostal22]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


Possible, but not likely. It is very important for the Iraqis to deal with this. They are already assembling a War Crimes Tribunal with assistance from the US and The Hague.

allowing the Iraqis to conduct the trial and punishment is necessary to their fledgling government and the Iraqi people as a whole!

we agree

mateo- terrorist support is questionable. and if we tried everyone supporting terrorists, we'd lose some allies (*cough*saudi arabia*COUGH*)

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by impostal22
diehard liberals and diehard conservatives who just disregard opposing views should be ignored. not to mention any names, but for those of you who just sit there and remain blissfully closeminded, remember that your view isn't THE view and your view is no more correct than OTHERS' views.

Horsehockey, most of us who espouse the views we do, do so from the experience of actually having LIVED it. Not having just got done reading about it in our high school world affairs books.

something else to note...the trading sanctions we placed against iraq has killed over 500,000 civilians in the past 10 years. could that or could that not be similar to a terrorist poisoning a reservoir? brings up the question: what is terrorism? many diehard conservs would argue that trade sanctions are a part of war. the truth is that traditional terrorism is a part of war too, and is usually the only means of fighting back efficiently for the countries that do it. but ya...the trade sanctions ended up punishing everyone but those at fault, so what makes them right?

Interesting that when you say WE you mean the US in a negative context. Guess what? the sanctions were imposed by the UN. Not unilaterally by the USA. And while we're on that subject, how many Iraqi people do you suppose could have been fed with all the cash that's been uncovered thus far in the war? How many meals could that $750,000 buy that was in the rat hole with hussein? And isn't it interesting that those countries that screamed the loudest, and are now screaming about being asked to cancel debts to Iraq, are also suspected to have outright broken the arms embargo with Iraq? Methinks thou dost protest too much France. Don't want to forgive the debts? Fine, cough up the receipts, the IRS will be contacting you shortly.

not to get on a tangent, but i hate the closemindedness of the people on this forum. those who disagree with your views are wrong, and those who effectively bash those who disagree with you are your allies. just cuz we're talking politics doesn't mean we have to act like politicians. just take a deep breath and remember, your views are just as subjective and biased as those you disagree with.

Please, there are still people in this country that know RIGHT from WRONG. Attempting to make the argument that opinions are equal NO MATTER WHAT is nonsense. Relativism sucks.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by impostal22


we agree

mateo- terrorist support is questionable. and if we tried everyone supporting terrorists, we'd lose some allies (*cough*saudi arabia*COUGH*)

Hey guess what? If they're supporting the terrorists that want to kill us..... they aren't our allies then are they.

This is really simple, either you're with us on fighting terrorism or your against us.

it's time to decide who you stand with.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Mateo
Also all the people my age of 16, please I beg you know your place in life. Some people on this board have been here and lived through alot more. Some are decorated soldiers, law enforcement, etc, they have more knowledge and experience then you could ever read online or see on the TV. Their opinions have more impact than yours because they are speaking from what they have done. Even I admit I sound like I know everything, but most of the time I know I don't. People like deadeye, cphillip, FOL, they are great guys and their thoughts shouldn't be debated but rather taken in and learned so that you as a person can grow. That doesn't mean we should be complacent and agree with everything. It is good to have your own opinion, it what makes you, well...you. But before you open your mouth, think. Respect your elders and their views, but its ok to give them hell once and a while, heck we are teenagers with hormones in full blast, its our job

somebody gets it...

and I'll tan your butt for calling me an ELDER you young punk you!

[Mateo]

p8ntball1016: Ive never liked Saudi Arabia as our ally, they are shady. I say we should go right ahead and loose them. Now I might come off as strong on my opinion here. We will be allies with Iraq and once it has recovered from Hussein's rule with infrastructure, production, manufacturing(I hope), I bet Saudi Arabia will start to sweat because they will realize...we don't need them anymore

FOL: Would you rather call you senile old man instead? I think elder has a little more respect in it but hey whatever floats your boat...

p8ntball1016:Hey if you want to get your hide tanned and get some sick pleaseure out of it go right on ahead, you can have it(j/k)