What KIND of a COUNTRY do we live in......

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by impostal22


kinda like blacks and women appeared to not have equal rights. good thing we cleared that up, huh?

And that was changed by law!!!!

How many countries allow gay marriage?

and to make an interesting point, the 19th amendment says that "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex." what "sex" is is not defined. look it up in a dictionary and you'll find that one of the definitions is "The sexual urge or instinct as it manifests itself in behavior." so i guess one could interpret the 19th amendment as considering all rights of homosexuals equal to rights of heterosexuals.

Sex is the sex of the individual, not Sexual preference and you now that so quit with the semantics!

[dansim]

rethinking about this over lunch, ive come to a conclusion that the people who associate gay marrige with being similar to necrophelia,bestiality and other sick fetishes are indeed twisted individuals who should seek some serious mental health

[dansim]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
Originally posted by impostal22


and to make an interesting point, the 19th amendment says that "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex." what "sex" is is not defined. look it up in a dictionary and you'll find that one of the definitions is "The sexual urge or instinct as it manifests itself in behavior." so i guess one could interpret the 19th amendment as considering all rights of homosexuals equal to rights of heterosexuals.

Sex is the sex of the individual, not Sexual preference and you now that so quit with the semantics! [/B]

hes right as we have the judicial system to interpet(sp) laws/amendments/the constitution, and the way they have interpeted it, its the sex of the person if they interpeted it your way impostal then there would be no problems

[Crime Dog]

I'm curious...what does "religion" have to do with it? To the best of my knowledge, every society on the face of earth...every civilization from the dawn of man has recognized the unique relationship between a man and a woman. Marriage is the institution upon which families (Father, Mother, children) were/are built. It is the building block...no...more specifically, the CORNERSTONE of civilization. Is marriage often seen in a religious context? Yes. I grant you that. But even secular society has always recognized that the institution of marriage is a UNIQUE constitution between a man, and a woman. You can cast the blame on religion all you want... What it boils down to is this:

Common Sense.

Unfortunately, common sense is not so common anymore.

The same people in this thread yelling and screaming that people need to be more tolerant of beliefs different than their own, are the same ones throwing stones and deriding and belittling people of religious persuasion that believe different.

Hypocrisy...and two-facedness.

*puts on flame-retardent material, since he knows he'll be burnt to a crisp by intolerant people*

[Crime Dog]

Sorry to double-post, but I think you'll find that most minorities are INSULTED by many people's insistence to use them and the issue of Civil Rights to promote gay marriage. I hear a lot of us "white folk" point to minorities to justify gay marriage. Before you do that, maybe you should ask the minorities you're using for your benefit how THEY feel about being manipulated for your political/moral gain...

[shartley]

Originally posted by dansim
rethinking about this over lunch, ive come to a conclusion that the people who associate gay marrige with being similar to necrophelia,bestiality and other sick fetishes are indeed twisted individuals who should seek some serious mental health

[dansim]

Originally posted by shartley

So although your post was spiteful and clearly meant to hurt, it falls flat when compared to what a good many already think about the homosexual community and the ACT of homosexuality itself. After all, homosexuality is NOT about who you choose to spend your life with, but about who you want to have SEX with.

it was huh, hmm i guess you can read deep into my psyche, oh that right you cant. ~edited out for content in case any kiddies come in~ the previous was an observation, and i forgot releationships are all about having sex right..totally untrue.

[Crime Dog]

*notes the intolerance of a view other than what dansim believes.*

See what I mean? Refusal to see the other side of teh story, tolerate it, and even *gasp* respect it.

*sighs*

[Restola]

Originally posted by dansim
rethinking about this over lunch, ive come to a conclusion that the people who associate gay marrige with being similar to necrophelia,bestiality and other sick fetishes are indeed twisted individuals who should seek some serious mental health

I don't think they are similar at all.

But if you think a gay's rights are being violated, how can you not think anyone else's rights aren't being violated.

Answer: because you drew a line somewhere. What's it based on? Your opinions.

[dansim]

Originally posted by Crime Dog
*notes the intolerance of a view other than what dansim believes.*

See what I mean? Refusal to see the other side of teh story, tolerate it, and even *gasp* respect it.

*sighs*

no not intorlerance, ignorance, just because a man types alot doesnt mean he knows what hes talking about, to state my post was malicious and trying to hurt someone is complete igonorance, it was mearly an observation

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by dansim


hes right as we have the judicial system to interpet(sp) laws/amendments/the constitution, and the way they have interpeted it, its the sex of the person if they interpeted it your way impostal then there would be no problems

Except that the 19th ammendment is limited to suffrage. Gay people can already vote, so the 19th ammendment adds nothing to this arguement. That is why the women's right's advocates are always pushing for the ERA: Equal Rights Ammendment!

So your argument is way off base!

[Restola]

Originally posted by dansim
just because a man types alot doesnt mean he knows what hes talking about

Words we should all think about

[shartley]

Originally posted by dansim

it was huh, hmm i guess you can read deep into my psyche, and i forgot releationships are all about having sex right..totally untrue.

[impostal22]

Originally posted by dansim


hes right as we have the judicial system to interpet(sp) laws/amendments/the constitution, and the way they have interpeted it, its the sex of the person if they interpeted it your way impostal then there would be no problems

that's what i was saying. i'm not saying *I* would interpret "sex" as anything but gender, but i'm saying that it's up to the courts how the law is interpretted.

[dansim]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye


Except that the 19th ammendment is limited to suffrage. Gay people can already vote, so the 19th ammendment adds nothing to this arguement. That is why the women's right's advocates are always pushing for the ERA: Equal Rights Ammendment!

So your argument is way off base!

i dont have an argument with you, i think were are all talking about different factors, of this thing, some people are argueing over religion,morals,laws im not really talking about anything except equal rights, and how some laws are based off of out of date religion, but you need the law makers to change that, not judges going agains state laws