Those wacky French are at it again!

[Rooster]

"Did you ever stop and think there would be no United States of America if the French weren't around?"

Incorrect. Nice revisionist history though. Frances help was largely incidental due to the fact they were already fighting a war with the British, and the best way to stab them was to help us. They didn't care about the US.

[PyRo]

Thats why they keep surrendering :)
Last I checked our cities wern't ruined, and not too many people were dying compared to past wars.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Automag88


In what way? Just because France doesn't want to fight in our stupid war? The realize that there is no point to this war that we are fighting, therefor they stand up for themselves and refuse to fight in it. What's so bad about that?

Plus, the French know the hell of war. The whole country lives in a fear of war because they know that people will die and their cities will be ruined.

[PyRo]

No France hasn't, they just surrendered :)

And since when are we blaming the war on France? Go eat some cheese.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Automag88
Shartley, you really shouldn't assume I don't know that France sold weapons and told secret things to middle east countries. But so has the US, how come when we do it it's ok, but when France does it it's not ok? In my opinion, the US has very unstable feelings about this war, they're not sure if they're right in fighting, so they blame everything and poke fun at France.
And I realize that we disagree, but I just get sick of all of the conservatives not allowing me to have my opinion, i'm letting them have theirs and just stating mine, can't they do the same?

Originally posted by Automag88
Tell me how exactly the US knows the hell of war. Are you saying we do because we've had a few little terrorist attacks on our country? Like Pearl Harbor and the WTC. Or are you talking about how we took Texas from Mexico? France has actually had a full out war in the streets that lasted for more than one day. That's why I'm saying they understand how much a WAR is hell, not a measly terrorist attack that lasts one day.

[PyRo]

Originally posted by shartley
I think you need to both grow up

Hmm, was that adressed to me? :)

[bratch]

Some interesting thoughts that have nothing to do with this but I'm going to say anyways.

I have recently taken up archery that has a quite different age composition than paintball on the boards i mingle on. The views being represented are also quite different on each board for a "similar" activity (outdoors, mainly male, etc). Using the wonderful profile button I notice most of the people on here attacking Bush, war, America, capitalism are younger usually 13-16 or so. I find this interesting and somewhat frightening(blind beliefs with an "I told you so attitude") in the upcoming years as they reach legal age.

Many times I have wanted to point this out in threads that became political wars but never have until today. Has anybody else noticed this trend? Thoughts?

Unfortunatley this assult on my intelligence and the attitudes exhibited by the "youth" of America has driven me from a 4 or 5 time user of AO (and paintball in general)a day to a once or twice a week user.

Once again this has little to do with the topic at hand in which I just read Shartley's replies and those following.

[shartley]

Originally posted by PyRo


Hmm, was that adressed to me? :)

None of my post was addressed to you. You took part of a sentence and posted it... read the whole thing.

bratch
Yes I have... and you are correct.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Automag88

In what way? Just because France doesn't want to fight in our stupid war? The realize that there is no point to this war that we are fighting, therefor they stand up for themselves and refuse to fight in it. What's so bad about that?

How about the single most damning example? Selling the Iraqis contraband weapons systems while the UN sanctions were in place.

Plus, the French know the hell of war. The whole country lives in a fear of war because they know that people will die and their cities will be ruined.


And the US doesn't? Please, the french know the hell of being occupied.

[1stdeadeye]

A little birdy shot me this link!

Saddam's family is hiring a French Lawyer to defend him!

[shartley]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
A little birdy shot me this link!

Saddam's family is hiring a French Lawyer to defend him!

[PyRo]

You don't like out country noone is forcing you to stay here. Your more then welcome to go live in France and whine about how horrible the United States are until you have Hitlar drinking coffee in London again.

Some quotes I like :)

"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure"
---Jacques Chirac, President of France

"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion."
--Norman Schwartzkopf

"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me."
--- General George S. Patton

[Python14]

lol, Saddam must be like "Thanks guys....thanks a whoooollleeeee bunch. I sure did need a french lawyer. All I need now is a white flag and a flagpole to run it up."

[-Carnifex-]

Originally posted by Rooster
"Did you ever stop and think there would be no United States of America if the French weren't around?"

Incorrect. Nice revisionist history though. Frances help was largely incidental due to the fact they were already fighting a war with the British, and the best way to stab them was to help us. They didn't care about the US.

Reread what he wrote. It doesn't say that he believes the French were in it for our benefit. He's right.

[PyRo]

We don't know we would have lost. Well because it never happend...