Rumsfeld gettin drilled on CNN

[Halliday]

You may not agree with Bush, but at least he belives in what he stands for.

Not John "I did vote for the amendment, before I voted against it" Kerry.

[-Carnifex-]

Then there will NEVER be a candidate you'll like.

Ever.

I'm not particularly fond of either, but Bush takes the lead by far.

I really wouldn't have much problem with him if he didn't spend so much, bend on medicare, and put more money into education.

[FactsOfLife]

I'm not particularly fond of either, but Bush takes the lead by far.

I really wouldn't have much problem with him if he didn't spend so much, bend on medicare, and put more money into education.

I guess you missed last years love fest between him and Ted Kennedy then?

I ain't particularly happy with the spending by ANY stretch, but the upsides FAR outweigh the downsides.

[SlartyBartFast]

Reality doesn't require proof.

Too bad you're living in your own little reality.

I doubt there's anyway you could explain your reality to the world.

The really stupid thing is that if education and services aren't important why is it that with limited resources and money, AlQuida, Hezbolla, and all the other terrorist and non-terrorist groups have managed to brain wash populations into beleiving in their various forms of hatred?

And weapons programs being underfunded?!? What a laugh. The US spends more on weapons and defense than much of the rest of the world. As if spending a few bucks on education andservices would be a waste compared to Billions on a war that has quickly run out of any plausible justification or the Missile defense program that has yet to even show it's possible to shoot down a slow speed drone on a known course.

[FactsOfLife]

Too bad you're living in your own little reality.

I doubt there's anyway you could explain your reality to the world.

The really stupid thing is that if education and services aren't important why is it that with limited resources and money, AlQuida, Hezbolla, and all the other terrorist and non-terrorist groups have managed to brain wash populations into beleiving in their various forms of hatred?

And weapons programs being underfunded?!? What a laugh. The US spends more on weapons and defense than much of the rest of the world. As if spending a few bucks on education andservices would be a waste compared to Billions on a war that has quickly run out of any plausible justification or the Missile defense program that has yet to even show it's possible to shoot down a slow speed drone on a known course.

Unbelievable.

[aaron_mag]

Unbelievable.

Facts...you need to understand. We spend too much money on weapons. With education we could spread love like a shining beacon in the darkness. Read these books and you'll understand:

Dude, Where's My Country? - Michael Moore

Thieves in High Places: They've Stolen Our Country--And Its Time to Take It Back - Jim Hightower

The Great Unraveling: Losing Our Way in the New Century - Paul Krugman

And you'll see the light and start spreading the message of peace and understanding....

Yes, btw, I'm just clowning around. IN MEMORY OF CB!!!!

BUT I agree with Slartybartfast. To say that we don't spend enough on the military is a joke. It was no surprise Afghanistan and Iraq fell so quickly. Our military and is both highly trained and well equipped.

Any current problems we are having can be laid at the feet of poor planning and stupidity by the leadership. Not on lack of military spending.

[taylor492]

Anyone see SNL the other day. They spoofed that girl in all the Iraqi prisoner photos. OMG it was hilarious!

[shartley]

No offense but anyone trying to use Michael Moore (or anything he has done) as proof for an argument position has just lost the argument.

(I did note the reference was in jest though. )

[FactsOfLife]

Facts...you need to understand. We spend too much money on weapons. With education we could spread love like a shining beacon in the darkness. Read these books and you'll understand:

Dude, Where's My Country? - Michael Moore

Thieves in High Places: They've Stolen Our Country--And Its Time to Take It Back - Jim Hightower

The Great Unraveling: Losing Our Way in the New Century - Paul Krugman

And you'll see the light and start spreading the message of peace and understanding....

Yes, btw, I'm just clowning around. IN MEMORY OF CB!!!!

BUT I agree with Slartybartfast. To say that we don't spend enough on the military is a joke. It was no surprise Afghanistan and Iraq fell so quickly. Our military and is both highly trained and well equipped.

Any current problems we are having can be laid at the feet of poor planning and stupidity by the leadership. Not on lack of military spending.

LOL those books are like bibles to the left.

Lack of planning and stupidity by the leadership? How about the kindness and evenhandedness by the leadership.

How about the restraint by the leadership.

How about the need to not carpetbomb the whole friggin area so that there's something left?

What you boys on the other side fail to realise is that there is a tremendous amount of restraint being shown by the US military in dealing with these insurgents.

You also fail to realise that by taking the war to Iraq and Afghanistan, we've kept them off of OUR soil.

Get over your abject hatred of Bush already you guys, you're a one note band.


And now if you'll excuse me, I have to be deloused after that mention of The Boy...

[Rooster]

"With education we could spread love like a shining beacon in the darkness."

LOL! Love? Are you freaking serious? Fanatical Arabs will take that love, turn it sideways and jam it straight up your ... etc, etc.

What's someone called that loves mankind too much to shoot back? Target practice.

[Jack_Dubious]

What's someone called that loves mankind too much to shoot back?

Jesus?


JDub

[shartley]

Jesus?


JDub

They shot at Jesus?!?!?!

[FactsOfLife]

Jesus?


JDub

Aren't you the one that posted that blasphemous review of The Passion on the Christ?

Burn baby burn! J Dub inferno! Burn baby burn!

[Jack_Dubious]

Aren't you the one that posted that blasphemous review of The Passion on the Christ?

Burn baby burn! J Dub inferno! Burn baby burn!

Now i got that song in my head......"burn baby burn. jdub inferno!!"

hey im all down for the JC. I can dig his groovy message about love and peace, baby. And how we all gotta just chill and expand our minds riding a psychedelic yellow submarine... hrmm... maybe im thinking of John Lennon...eh..the long hair throws me off...

anyways, my point being, i agree with Jesus's message and everything he teaches. I just dont believe he is God.

shartley- for some reason your reply gives me this image of Jesus doing a Matrix and stopping bullets in mid air.


JDub

[SlartyBartFast]

Lack of planning and stupidity by the leadership?

Yup. Stupid twits thought it would be all love and honours for the liberating soldiers and that everything would be all hunky-dory once they had Bagdad.

Complete unpreparedness left them without plans to protect power and infrastructure, govt buildings, hospitals, museums etc.

How about the restraint by the leadership.

How about the need to not carpetbomb the whole friggin area so that there's something left?

What you boys on the other side fail to realise is that there is a tremendous amount of restraint being shown by the US military in dealing with these insurgents.

Hmm. Problem is that the prisons are filled with people arrested on suspicions of being security threats. Many it turns out are no thread at all. (Otherwise why would they be in the middle of releasing many of them?)

The insurgents for the most part, at least it would seem, are (rightly) getting their heads blown to bits in gun fights.

You also fail to realise that by taking the war to Iraq and Afghanistan, we've kept them off of OUR soil.

True for Afghanistan. BS wrt Iraq.

Get over your abject hatred of Bush already you guys, you're a one note band.