Rumsfeld gettin drilled on CNN

[-Carnifex-]

I guess you missed last years love fest between him and Ted Kennedy then?

I ain't particularly happy with the spending by ANY stretch, but the upsides FAR outweigh the downsides.

So you're agreeing with me?

[Rooster]

"Reality is that president Bush is scrweing up the next election by keeping Rumsfeld, he's gonna lose, and you can't take it.... maybe that's why you are so hateful.... so lame...."

The sad thing is, there are morons who actually beleive this. The election is many months away, long enough time to forget about some gaurds making human pyramids out of their charges (which if the pictures hadn't gotten out, would be a brilliant way to break an Arab man's will, fairly simplistic and humane, while very effective).

[Ov3rmind]

See above post. Thanks.

All that post did was validate my point. Thanks for trying anyway.

[-Carnifex-]

The sad thing is, there are morons who actually beleive this. The election is many months away, long enough time to forget about some gaurds making human pyramids out of their charges (which if the pictures hadn't gotten out, would be a brilliant way to break an Arab man's will, fairly simplistic and humane, while very effective).

Doesn't seem very humane to me..

[FactsOfLife]

So you're agreeing with me?

Not especially, I'm pointing out the fact that President Bush basicly let Teddy write the education reform act and signed off on it to appease the fat drunk.


Didn't help much.

[FactsOfLife]

All that post did was validate my point. Thanks for trying anyway.

I don't particularly give a damn whether or not I validate ANYTHING you spew out of your orifice.

In particular anything from a 17 year old's orifice.

You just ain't that important. Sorry.

[-Carnifex-]

Not especially, I'm pointing out the fact that President Bush basicly let Teddy write the education reform act and signed off on it to appease the fat drunk.


Didn't help much.

Then we agree. I wasn't saying Kerry would do a better job (I don't believe that at all.).

Bush is the lesser of two evils in my mind.

[FactsOfLife]

Then we agree. I wasn't saying Kerry would do a better job (I don't believe that at all.).

Bush is the lesser of two evils in my mind.

Can't agree with that. Bush has yet to hurt his arm flip flopping the way Kerry does.

So has anyone pinned down whether or not Kerry actually threw his medals over the white house lawn or not?

[Ov3rmind]

I don't particularly give a damn whether or not I validate ANYTHING you spew out of your orifice.

In particular anything from a 17 year old's orifice.

You just ain't that important. Sorry.

Someone of "importance" has asseted their position. Uh oh!

Get off your high horse, silly.

[FactsOfLife]

Someone of "importance" has asseted their position. Uh oh!

Get off your high horse, silly.

Apparently you haven't gotten the word. You're dismissed.

Now, go play with your transformers or whatever it is you children do these days.

[Rooster]

"Doesn't seem very humane to me.."

LOL! Then God help you if anyone decides to get information by beating it out of you.

Of course if someone knew information about the next time their group was going to try to kill some of your friends, you would probably just ask him. And he would laugh at your stupidity. And then laugh at you becuase you refused to do anything about him laughing at you.

[FactsOfLife]

"Doesn't seem very humane to me.."

LOL! Then God help you if anyone decides to get information by beating it out of you.

Of course if someone knew information about the next time their group was going to try to kill some of your friends, you would probably just ask him. And he would laugh at your stupidity. And then laugh at you becuase you refused to do anything about him laughing at you.

And of course the outcome of that is more dead American servicemen.

[Rebel46_99]

Like it or not, the world now has firm and solid proof that the Americans are as nastly low and vile as the claim those they are fighting against are/were. Claims that it was a limited few are unlikely to be blieved by many and are likely to be disproved as more information comes to light.

It is also now a solid fact and reality that the US will have a very difficult time convincing many governments and populaces that they mean well or that they should be supported.

(SBF, this isn't aimed primarily at you, I'm using the quote as an example to the rest.......)

And yet, what country does the rest of the world depend on when they need help of ANY sort? i.e. economic, food, relief aid.... not to mention, initial UN Peacekeepers. It sure as hell ain't the UN or the International Red Cross.... You got it, Ladies........ The USA!

Everyone complains about the US economy, but did you EVER stop to think how well off we would be if we hadn't forgiven TRILLIONS of dollars of loans to an untold number of countries, over the decades? If we, the USA, decided to call to account all of those loans, and we would be legally justified in doing so, we would bankrupt the rest of the world.

DW

[taylor492]

"Under the terrible stresses of war, there are some in every country who commit atrocities. The difference is that Americans are upset, ashamed and/or angry when their troops do it, while people in some Mideast countries danced in the streets on 9/11 and when the bodies of dead American civilians were dragged through the streets of Iraq."

-Thomas Sowell
Creators Syndicate

[SlartyBartFast]

And yet, what country does the rest of the world depend on when they need help of ANY sort? i.e. economic, food, relief aid.... not to mention, initial UN Peacekeepers. It sure as hell ain't the UN or the International Red Cross.... You got it, Ladies........ The USA!

Yes the USA does alot. But your abject dismissal and belittlement of the UN and International Red Cross underlines why so many resent the USA and are so disgusted regardless of the good that is done.

The contributions of other countries should not be put down and the contributions of all the international organisations (Medcins Sans Frontieres, Red Cross/Crecent, etc ..) should be held up as examples not derided in a apthetic jerk-off "I'm better than you are" strutting/pissing contest.

And even then, while the US is an important player it's not the only one. The Japanese floated much of the American debt for a long time, so even then American largesse is often borrowed. And then lets remember the dents that you didn't forgive and are a large part of why the USA is now a super power. Britain and France are still paying for war aid from WW2.

And if you're going to bring the UN up, well they could be far more productive if one of their main members actually lived up to their obligations without attaching strings and political motivations to every penny given or held the assemblies hostage when democratic votes in the assembly didn't go their way.

"My way of the highway!" and "USA #1!" drivel is what gives the US the international black eye. You can accomplish a lot, win, and be the best without also being the biggest in-your-face prick. Nothing wrong in being proud of your country. But why is it that a gang of Americans at the olympics or English at a soccer final can raise up the scorn of all other participants while a far more vocal Australian crowd cheering "Aussie! Aussie! Aussie!" at the olympics (at home or abroad) are welcomed and supported?