LOL Looks like Monday is national "Day without an Illegal" day ...

[lopxtc]

From CNN ...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/28/boycott/index.html

Well looks like the rich people in my area are going to be without day care and lawn care this Monday ...

Seems like it would make it easier to get them the hell out of here now if they are all marching together ... any chance we can fool them into marching en-masse back across the border

Aaron

[Dayspring]

In before the lock.

[lopxtc]

Eh they can ban me ... just speaking what the majority of the US is speaking. Get legal the proper way or get out ...

Aaron

[HOMELANDEFENDER]

Come down on businesses hiring illegals, and it'll go a long way to solving the problem. When a guy hires ten illegals for a demolition job, pays them $10 an hour, and when one of his workers hurts themselves, the boss takes him to the emergency room where WE tax payers pay for it. The Boss doesn't pay health care, insurance, basic retirement, nada... He exploits them, and makes a good buck doing it.

Require mandatory registration / documentation of all workers and you'll see things change. This country does not need an underclass society that gets exploited by businesses. Register them with work visa's that DO expire and enforce it. Then require businesses to provide the minimum health care, wages, ect --- or face fines and or jail. This way we are relieved of the burden of paying for their needs.

I seriously doubt that the US will force them to leave - so lets do the next best thing and make all involved legal -- And I don't mean citizens. They should have to apply for that , and not become an American by default. If by that time they don't want to apply through proper channels, then they should be deported. Just my two cents.

HLD...

[personman]

I hate all this crap, it pisses me off. They arent U.S. citizens, they dont get the first amendment rights.

[SCpoloRicker]

/although I would be interested in discussing this at the bar..

[fire1811]

IMO its a good day to find out who shouldn't legally be here.

[HOMELANDEFENDER]

I prefer the english speaking version myself... lol.



HLD...

[Konigballer]

"IMO its a good day to find out who shouldn't legally be here."


Yeah buddy, and who the hell is going to remove them? MILLIONS of them.....

I cant understand how people in this country can possibly think the US has the logistical, and financial, ability to remove millions of illegal immigrants... Is there some secret, massively funded organization, with manpower in the millions, ready to get these illegals off the street and I just dont know about it? It sure ain't the INS, Police, or National Guard. You might not of noticed but the INS cant even SECURE the friggin' border, let alone send back the millions of illegals who are in the US already back over it again. And the Police and National Guard, well, there a little busy at the moment as it is.

Anyone who actively thinks the US can remove millions of illegal immigrants back to Mexico is living in la-la land, and might need to put down the paint thinner... The focus should soley be on securing the US/Mexico border to stem the flood, and I doubt we can even do that, not trying to send back the people already here. It's just to late for that. If the government had seriously acted to secure the border 10, 15, or 20 years ago we wouldn't have so many here already, but alas they did nothing.

[Tunaman]

"IMO its a good day to find out who shouldn't legally be here."


Yeah buddy, and who the hell is going to remove them? MILLIONS of them.....

I cant understand how people in this country can possibly think the US has the logistical, and financial, ability to remove millions of illegal immigrants... Is there some secret, massively funded organization, with manpower in the millions, ready to get these illegals off the street and I just dont know about it? It sure ain't the INS, Police, or National Guard. You might not of noticed but the INS cant even SECURE the friggin' border, let alone send back the millions of illegals who are in the US already back over it again. And the Police and National Guard, well, there a little busy at the moment as it is.

Anyone who actively thinks the US can remove millions of illegal immigrants back to Mexico is living in la-la land, and might need to put down the paint thinner... The focus should soley be on securing the US/Mexico border to stem the flood, and I doubt we can even do that, not trying to send back the people already here. It's just to late for that. If the government had seriously acted to secure the border 10, 15, or 20 years ago we wouldn't have so many here already, but alas they did nothing.

There are HUNDREDS of millions of people who would be glad to help/make them go back home. They are called Americans.

[lopxtc]

The problem is that it can be done, just not over night ... it will take just as many years to get them the hell out as it took them all to get in.

The problem is that the agencys involved dont have the man power or $$$ to do it, but simply put as they are caught process them the hell out.

We dont need to actively look for them, wait till they get pulled over, turn up at a hospital injured on the job, or whatever ... go ahead and heal them, but them get them out. I dont care which border you boot them across ... just get them out of here.

If they dont want to go through the process of being here legally then they are criminals and should be treated as such ...

Aaron

[Konigballer]

"There are HUNDREDS of millions of people who would be glad to help/make them go back home. They are called Americans."

Really, are these the same millions of Americans who I keep hearing would do the same crap jobs these illegals do for low pay, because I don't think they exist. I'm just having trouble picturing some guy with a family to support ditching a good job to 'take up the cause' and go hunt down illegals... somehow I think his response would be 'go screw yourself, I have to pay for my kid's college in a few years'.

[Konigballer]

"The problem is that the agencys involved dont have the man power or $$$ to do it, but simply put as they are caught process them the hell out."

I agree, they dont have the manpower or money, so much so that they can't even effectively do what your suggesting in the second part of your sentence let alone something on a mor massive nationwide scale. Now I don't want yah to think I'm happy about them being here, I just think its sadly way to late to do much about the millions already here. The money just ain't there, and it's not going to be. We already have wars in two different countries to fight, and you know how people really hate tax increases.

If friggin' Mexico could actually try to make their country not such a craphole their citizens wouldn't be so ready to leave, but I doubt they will ever break their impressive multi-century streak of national suck...

[HOMELANDEFENDER]

"There are HUNDREDS of millions of people who would be glad to help/make them go back home. They are called Americans."

Really, are these the same millions of Americans who I keep hearing would do the same crap jobs these illegals do for low pay, because I don't think they exist.

Unfortunately the so called "crap jobs" are not so crappy anymore. Among other things I'm a Union HVAC mechanic, and I see a ton of illegal's working construction jobs. Anyone who thinks its just the landscaping and agricultural jobs being affected is very offbase. They are taking REAL jobs that were staffed by Americans, and its spreading to many trades including the Electrician, laborer, carpenter, painter, you name it. And its being driven by the greed of the non union contractors who hire them , and thats a fact.

I live in New Jersey --- which has to be one of the farthest states from the Mexican border. If they are spreading in large numbers here, then I couldn't imagine other states. This problem WILL come back to bite the blue collar Amercan worker with families and its happening right now.

HLD...

[Eagle]

I'm an electricians apprentice in the Richmons Va area, and while I haven't seen any illegals working in the electrical field, I have seen them in others-masonry, drywall, carpentry, painting. One thing that I have noticed, is that the guys who I have seen (from latin nations) who are here legally-at least those who work in the electrical field, are some damn hard workers. Those who are here illegally (also from latin nations) tend to stand around jackin there jaws more then they turn wrenches.

As far as I'm concerned, if they are here legally-welcome to America. If not, then they should recieve no rights or services other than emegency medical treatment.