Legalizing Drugs in Mexico !!!

[evildead420]

It's fairly clear that I am in the minority here. I'll just say that dealing with marijuana in a social setting, sitting around with friends and enjoying yourself, does not provide you with a full understanding of what marijuana does, and what it leads to. In my experience, all drugs, including marijuana, are something society can live without. It IS a gateway drug, and serves no purpose other than some questionable medicinal ones. Sure, alcohol and cigarettes are bad, but does that mean that we should legalize anything else that is bad also?

Here is what the DSM IV has to say about cannabis addiction:

man your no fun to hang out with,

[Steelrat]

You're right. But old ladies with cancer shouldn't have to go to their friendly neighborhood dealer to get some pot to smoke.

Then people should stop selling off their perscription medication and screwing it up for the other people.

[Steelrat]

society would be a lot better without a lot of things, such as racism, paris hilton, discrimination, injustice, american idol, etc... but its unrealistic to assume we can completely get rid of them, because there are too many people that unfortunately perpetuate them. instead of being ideallistic about it, you have to figure out what you can do in your given situation.

Yes, and it's currently illegal. Why back away from that now? So Billy and Jane can go sit in their basement and get high legally ?

[Steelrat]

So I shouldn't have Nexium any more? Man, I get some serious acid reflux without that stuff.

Okay, Mr. Literalist.

P.S. You're a really funny guy. Really.

[Steelrat]

man your no fun to hang out with,

Yeah, I don't smoke pot, so I'm really lame to be around. Want to hear something worse? I don't get drunk. Golly, I'm surprised I even have any friends at all.

[tropical_fishy]

Then people should stop selling off their perscription medication and screwing it up for the other people.

You remind me of my third grade teacher who made us all stay in for recess when one stupid kid wouldn't stop talking.

I bet you ruin recess for lots of people.

In all seriousness, though, there's always going to be a way for people to get drugs that are illegal. My concern for those morons is minimal. If they want to act irresponsibly with drugs, they pay. My concern is, as I stated before, for people who are terminally ill or in chronic pain who can do nothing for said pain except smoke a little pot.

[Hexis]

Okay, Mr. Literalist.

Well, where do we draw the line? Medical Marijuana should be illegal because some people abuse their perscriptions? Well that's true of many prescription medications that come in many forms. Pretty much any narcotic is sold illegally. Some stimulants are as well. Should those be illegal because a few people abuse the system?

[evildead420]

Yeah, I don't smoke pot, so I'm really lame to be around. Want to hear something worse? I don't get drunk. Golly, I'm surprised I even have any friends at all.

lol, thats ok, more for ME thats the spirit, but, i dont promote the use if they dont want to, peer preasure is lame. do what you want to do.

[evildead420]

here ya go steelrat, my view of it



lol

[slade]

Yes, and it's currently illegal. Why back away from that now? So Billy and Jane can go sit in their basement and get high legally ?

it was a joke... although i wouldnt mind making paris hilton illegal.

my point was, though, that while many people (such as yourself) would consider completely getting rid of pot as the best line of action, it simply wont happen. therefore you have to consider the fact that maybe legalizing it but having its sale government controlled (and taxed) would create a better situation then having dealers. plus, maybe the government would have some extra cash to use to revamp the RMV.

Well, where do we draw the line? Medical Marijuana should be illegal because some people abuse their perscriptions? Well that's true of many prescription medications that come in many forms. Pretty much any narcotic is sold illegally. Some stimulants are as well. Should those be illegal because a few people abuse the system?

thats a good point, many prescription medications are abused. i hear plenty of stories, such as someone overdosing on over the counter pills or a girl i know snorting adderall. should adderall be illegal because of her?

Yeah, I don't smoke pot, so I'm really lame to be around. Want to hear something worse? I don't get drunk. Golly, I'm surprised I even have any friends at all.

same here, actually. its amazing that i have any friends at all... oh wait, nevermind, i dont.

[Steelrat]

Well, where do we draw the line? Medical Marijuana should be illegal because some people abuse their perscriptions? Well that's true of many prescription medications that come in many forms. Pretty much any narcotic is sold illegally. Some stimulants are as well. Should those be illegal because a few people abuse the system?

Marijuana proponents are trying to prove their case in the face of decades of legislation against marijuana use. People selling the stuff on the street outside the pharmacy they just picked it up at doesn't help their case.

[Hexis]

Marijuana proponents are trying to prove their case in the face of decades of legislation against marijuana use. People selling the stuff on the street outside the pharmacy they just picked it up at doesn't help their case.

I fully agree that kind of behavior is not helping anyone. My question is where do we draw the line? Because something has been illegal for decades means it should stay that way? Marijuana has a much longer history of being legal before the last century. Should that not been taken into consideration? Should we really let the past 50 years dictate the future without critical examination of the issues?

Really, where does the line get drawn? At what point do you have to accept that a portion of any group will attempt to abuse any system of rules for their advantage?

[Lohman446]

Steelrat - just because something can be harmful does not give the government the right to criminalize it.

People use paintball guns for vandalism all the time - lets criminalize it.

People abuse fatty foods and are a drain on society - lets criminalize it.

People abuse sexual relations all the time - lets criminalize it.

People abuse talking all the time - lets criminalize it.

The government should not criminalize victimless crimes. And if we can define "society as a whole" or "long term health effects" as creating a victim, well then we need to eliminate a lot of other things as well.

My argument is not based on health effects - my argument holds as true for hard drugs as it does for "soft" drugs.

[Steelrat]

Steelrat - just because something can be harmful does not give the government the right to criminalize it.

People use paintball guns for vandalism all the time - lets criminalize it.

People abuse fatty foods and are a drain on society - lets criminalize it.

People abuse sexual relations all the time - lets criminalize it.

People abuse talking all the time - lets criminalize it.

The government should not criminalize victimless crimes. And if we can define "society as a whole" or "long term health effects" as creating a victim, well then we need to eliminate a lot of other things as well.

My argument is not based on health effects - my argument holds as true for hard drugs as it does for "soft" drugs.

So, you think we should decriminalize meth? Coke? Heroin?

[Lohman446]

So, you think we should decriminalize meth? Coke? Heroin?

Short answer: Yes