PTP Micromag Design Concepts

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  • Dend78
    Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
    • Oct 2004
    • 2963

    #46
    valve is not to scale so disregard that, about the only thing to scale there is the frame, everything else is just thrown in for visual effect


    here is another idea

    Last edited by Dend78; 09-27-2007, 03:09 PM.
    2k2 Angel LCD
    turbo trigger
    CP volumizer
    PIPE KIT

    2k Angel CnC LCD
    Vert Frame
    Freak Barrel

    B2k x-milled
    micro rock
    Dye sticky 3's
    vertical max-flo
    Edge barrel with blue J&J tip

    Egg 2 y board
    Empire Reloader
    Dye Throttle 91/4500
    Crossfire 114ci/3000
    Angel Air Reg

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    • Engus
      PTP's favorite AO'er
      • Jul 2007
      • 414

      #47
      trying to make it look a little better. I'm redoing the part above the valve, it just doesn't look quit right.

      dend- where did you get the file of the frame?

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      • secretweaponevan
        Only HALF Polish!
        • Sep 2007
        • 1132

        #48
        I love Dend's. I like the way it has a hood that wraps back around the top of the valve area. The 3D milling of it might add a lot to the cost though.

        And although I think it looks really good, I wan't something a little more in the flavor of the PTP boxy look, not a Dallara copy (even though it looks really good). Plus, keeping it close to the original design might help costs down since they already have the CAD for that body more than lilkely.

        Just my $0.02.

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        • Dend78
          Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
          • Oct 2004
          • 2963

          #49


          there is is pretty close to finished
          2k2 Angel LCD
          turbo trigger
          CP volumizer
          PIPE KIT

          2k Angel CnC LCD
          Vert Frame
          Freak Barrel

          B2k x-milled
          micro rock
          Dye sticky 3's
          vertical max-flo
          Edge barrel with blue J&J tip

          Egg 2 y board
          Empire Reloader
          Dye Throttle 91/4500
          Crossfire 114ci/3000
          Angel Air Reg

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          • secretweaponevan
            Only HALF Polish!
            • Sep 2007
            • 1132

            #50
            Can some Photoshop wiz take the texture of this scaling and apply it to the shape of the 1st gen raw body?

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            • Fantom
              Registered User
              • Jul 2007
              • 63

              #51
              My ideas

              The body needs to also address the needs of the woodsball crowd:

              1) Sight rail is a most. Better yet if it comes with a weaver or picatinny.
              2) RH feed....not top feed which blocks the use of a red dot sight.

              BTW, I could have bought an AGD Tac-One body by now, but they only offer the top feeder or a side feeder for the warpfeed. I think that is a tactical/marketing error.

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              • Papa_Smurf
                E/Xmag ACE boards, PM me.
                • Sep 2006
                • 1531

                #52
                I'm going to vote no rail on body. I want a clean look, not jagged.

                And for higher rates of fire, I'll vote center feed.

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                • secretweaponevan
                  Only HALF Polish!
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1132

                  #53
                  When this idea and interest was generated, it was for CF bodies, so unless a low-cost "x-mag" esque modular breach is designed, CF it should probably be. I don't see how a low-cost modular breach could be had. A lot more machining involved. Would be cool though, if it looked clean.

                  Maybe have the barrel lock it in place or something?

                  edit: Because if this could be CF/LF/RF/Warp, I might just crap my pants.
                  Last edited by secretweaponevan; 09-27-2007, 06:33 PM. Reason: added stuff.

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                  • Papa_Smurf
                    E/Xmag ACE boards, PM me.
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 1531

                    #54
                    I know how cool the different breeches would be. But it adds soooo much more meat. I can't stress how much heavier my xmag body is than my ULE.

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                    • Sumthinwicked
                      team id psycho AO-CT
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 4292

                      #55
                      if ptp rereleases some stuff gun wise id have to get one im thinking ule of course light as possible and the vert verse everything else is my favorite idea ...im glad im talking to one of there guys about reselling the old benchy frames they have about 200 flat black left better scoop them single trigger ones up if you want em....... they make nice frames for the longbow

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                      • going_home
                        Hebrews 13:8

                        • Dec 2004
                        • 8343

                        #56
                        Xmag bodies

                        Originally posted by secretweaponevan
                        When this idea and interest was generated, it was for CF bodies, so unless a low-cost "x-mag" esque modular breach is designed, CF it should probably be. I don't see how a low-cost modular breach could be had. A lot more machining involved. Would be cool though, if it looked clean.

                        Maybe have the barrel lock it in place or something?

                        edit: Because if this could be CF/LF/RF/Warp, I might just crap my pants.

                        Isnt the reason no one has made any more Xmag bodies because they are patented ?

                        Uh oh. Did I say the nasty word ?

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                        • secretweaponevan
                          Only HALF Polish!
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 1132

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Papa_Smurf
                          I know how cool the different breeches would be. But it adds soooo much more meat. I can't stress how much heavier my xmag body is than my ULE.
                          Oooh, what about triple feed ports? 2 can just contain detentes, and one for feed port? That shouldn't add too much weight.
                          Would have to be index threaded for detente positioning, but would allow a lot of options, CF, WR, WL, as well as dual detentes. And since only CF would need the strength to support a hopper, the top would be the only part that needed the most meat.

                          Thoughts?
                          Last edited by secretweaponevan; 09-27-2007, 07:46 PM. Reason: spelling and add

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                          • Papa_Smurf
                            E/Xmag ACE boards, PM me.
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 1531

                            #58
                            Originally posted by secretweaponevan
                            Oooh, what about triple feed ports? 2 can just contain detentes, and one for feed port? That shouldn't add too much weight.
                            Would have to be index threaded for detente positioning, but would allow a lot of options, CF, WR, WL, as well as dual detentes. And since only CF would need the strength to support a hopper, the top would be the only part that needed the most meat.

                            Thoughts?

                            Have you looked at an xmag? It's far from what I thought It would be. It's hard to grasp without having done so.

                            going_home: I looked for a patent, I don't find one for that. I found them for the classic and other things, including a "Coupon inserting apparatus and method"

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                            • going_home
                              Hebrews 13:8

                              • Dec 2004
                              • 8343

                              #59
                              Question for AGD

                              I am almost certain AGD Europe patented them .
                              Paging Tom Kaye .......

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                              • secretweaponevan
                                Only HALF Polish!
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 1132

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Papa_Smurf
                                Have you looked at an xmag? It's far from what I thought It would be. It's hard to grasp without having done so.
                                This wouldn't be a totally removable breach, but merely 3 threaded feed ports. The detente ports would just be threaded discs with a detente in them, located a bit off center.

                                It might work well with the "boxy" 1st and 2nd gen designs of the Micromag.

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