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  • QUINCYMASSGUY
    Registered User
    • Dec 2002
    • 914

    #1

    stopblock idea

    The secret is out about what exactly the ULE trigger is! Now that these questions are answered I'm sure we all have more new questions and would looooove for the mods and people priveleged enough to get the ULE triggers and learn all about them to give their honest opinions about how they will work for normal Mag owners, any weaknesses in them, the best features of them, how difficult it is to set it up, and such! Please by all means post issues you want addressed in this thread, not congratulations or anything, AGD knows we like it, and hopefully they will respond. And if an offical thread comes out that would make this redundant, I fully understand if the moderators want to pull this one.

    My first question: The Warpig article seemed to allude to the fact that the retro effect might still exist or is able to exist... for those using them, is this true? Does this prevent chuffing? Wouldn't that make for easy sweetspotting, ie not tourney legal? Do the shims change this?

    My next one: Is the trigger pull length affected at all, in other words how short can the pull be while still effectively cycling at, lets say, 15bps? I presume same as before but I'm sure if we could in any way get the length as close to electric as the weight is, we'd be in heaven.

    Three's a charm: Do you see any room for upgrades to this or the Lvl 10 setup that could increase ROF, shorten pull, or anything? No I'm not expecting it and definitely won't be bummed, just wondering as AGD has redesigned so much lately that creating a part to replace the sear to enable a shorter pull would definitely be something I could see these innovators move to next!

    And finally, Tom touched on before that this on/off had an issue related to dwell times on EMags/XMags but also hinted that this lighter pull could make an affordable e-trigger with smaller solenoid possible. Any feedback on this? Would this open up aftermarket companies to release E-frames, possible in a 90 degree style?

    Come on folks, give us the dirt!
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  • gtrsi
    Automag?
    • Dec 2001
    • 5786

    #2
    Re: ULE trigger revealed! Impressions, questions, concerns?

    Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY
    And finally, Tom touched on before that this on/off had an issue related to dwell times on EMags/XMags but also hinted that this lighter pull could make an affordable e-trigger with smaller solenoid possible.
    this is my speculation, none of this info is based in fact!

    I think it would be mighty nice if AGD desgined a smaller selnoid, use that combined with the ULE trig, and would therefore use a smaller batt. This would make a very very light ULE E/Xmag.

    Your signature is WAY over the limit. You now have over 80K in it. Thats more than double allowed. Please revise it according to the rules you will find posted near the top in Friendly Corner. thanks! cphilip
    Last edited by cphilip; 07-21-2003, 08:03 AM.
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    • acecl22
      AGD RULES
      • Aug 2002
      • 397

      #3
      in some other thread, tom said that the ULE trigger is part of a much bigger picture, i cant wait to see what he has in store for his loyal mag owners
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      • QUINCYMASSGUY
        Registered User
        • Dec 2002
        • 914

        #4
        other thread

        That other thread and the "bigger picture" was what raised my attention to the possibility of upgrades or possibly something to replace the sear and/or rail so the Mag may not even shoot using a sear pin anymore. I don't know, all speculation, but now that the ULE on/off is out we might have a better idea.
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        • SIGSays
          USMC
          • Sep 2001
          • 3051

          #5
          i know what he has in mind... a new scheme to take away even more money....

          lvl 10 took money from us
          ule bodies took money
          iframes took money
          ult will take money
          xvalves even more money taken..

          when will the madness stop??

          Arg!!!! Too big and too many things in signature!!! Change the signature dude... cphilip
          Last edited by cphilip; 07-21-2003, 08:12 AM.
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          • acecl22
            AGD RULES
            • Aug 2002
            • 397

            #6
            i wonder if tom's engineers could play with the sear assy so that the assembly itself moves the same amount, but you only have to move the trigger a fraction of what it is now, im sure its possible, just dont know how
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            • acecl22
              AGD RULES
              • Aug 2002
              • 397

              #7
              lol, since nobody else makes quality upgrades for mags yet, i dont mind paying agd for their great inovations... i wonder how long until they run out of ideas for things to revolutionize paintball, nahhhh thatll never happen
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              • Automaggin2
                Registered User
                • Sep 2002
                • 2506

                #8
                I think AGD needs to do SULE, super ultra light engineering. Titanium, carbon fiber, you know you know


                JP.

                And a smaller solenoid....hmmm....i dunno.....
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                • SG Avenger
                  Accuracy Vs. Volume
                  • May 2003
                  • 286

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SIGSays
                  i know what he has in mind... a new scheme to take away even more money....

                  lvl 10 took money from us
                  ule bodies took money
                  iframes took money
                  ult will take money
                  xvalves even more money taken..

                  when will the madness stop??
                  When AGD introduces the first Cyber Paintaball Gun [grin]

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                  • joey d
                    yes, I run akaowners.org
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 2030

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Automaggin2
                    I think AGD needs to do SULE, super ultra light engineering. Titanium, carbon fiber, you know you know


                    JP.

                    And a smaller solenoid....hmmm....i dunno.....
                    is your gun really that heavy that you cant carry it with ULE parts? :P

                    if so, you should consider workin out more


                    QUINCYMASSGUY

                    i can answer your first question, best to my ability.

                    it does not seem to actual shorter the trigger pull itself. I fired a few rounds on this bad larry at the megameet, pull didnt seem any different than my x-valved mag. was WAY ligher though
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                    • Kellen_p8nt
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 286

                      #11
                      Avenger do you think those next generation cyber paintball guns will include the hot chick?
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                      • SG Avenger
                        Accuracy Vs. Volume
                        • May 2003
                        • 286

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kellen_p8nt
                        Avenger do you think those next generation cyber paintball guns will include the hot chick?
                        if they wan't it to sell it damn well better! [grin]

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                        • cheetah256
                          I am root!
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 627

                          #13
                          Re: other thread

                          Originally posted by QUINCYMASSGUY
                          That other thread and the "bigger picture" was what raised my attention to the possibility of upgrades or possibly something to replace the sear and/or rail so the Mag may not even shoot using a sear pin anymore. I don't know, all speculation, but now that the ULE on/off is out we might have a better idea.
                          i seem to remember him talking about efficiancy modifications next...

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                          • cphilip
                            Former Moderator

                            • Jun 2026
                            • 16216

                            #14
                            It doesn't shorten the pull. That he has said many times...

                            When will the madness end? Well...you figure he gotta retire some day?


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                            • acecl22
                              AGD RULES
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 397

                              #15
                              lol... i wasnt sayin that it would shorten the pull, i was just sayin that maybe the engineers could think of a way to shorten the pull, anythin is possible, quincymassguy and gtrsi are speculating on a new solenoid i think, maybe because not as much pressure is needed for the solenoid to do its job, so it wouldnt need as much power... hence a smaller bat pack, and a lighter gun
                              Level 10, ULE bodied, X-Valved mag
                              Flat black Intelliframe
                              12"cp barrel
                              CP mini gas-through
                              Phsyco Ballistics Drop with on/off
                              pmi 68ci 3000psi nitro tank

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